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T1 or T2?

Hmm.. probably NT Grey/Black? Just because that's the bias of my cards. Mostly.

And somebody with a type 2 turtle needs help

Dust and Ashes is a may.  You do not have to put him there instead, you can allow the shuffle and then would draw 6 still.  No problem.

EDIT: Found the old thread on this debate, and while the ruling is correct, I posted this piece to it so that others finding the thread also see that it is a 'may' ability.

So this is an older thread but you could add White to do an Enoch and "Ruth" turtle as well (which needs Solomon's temple/Covenant of Eden/Blue Tassels). Which would be more like adding the Job turtle to a white deck. Still the Ruth combo draws a lot of cards so should be able to set up easily enough. Covenant Keepers and Eli the Priest would help find Artifacts that would stop capture. Remove from game would be less of a problem.

Certainly does. Well just put Joy on Enoch with your Solomon's Temple/Blue Tassels/Covenant of Eden combo. Covenant of Palestine will back up in case of DoN. A lot of work but that makes it all white, though Eli is still a good addition, and Tribal Elder. Enough to add a blue battle winner to the deck. Not really familiar with blue to say what that should be.