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Ruth (j)
Naomi (j)
Boaz (j)
Elders of the city (j)
The Woman with Child
Justin Martyr
Jephthah's Daughter
Ibzan
The Angel of the Winds

Kinsmen's Agreement
Death of Family
Lamenting in the Mountains
Family Bond
Gleaning the Fields
Loyalty of Ruth
Ruth meets Boaz

Boaz's Sandal
You Will Remain

Reserve
Jephathah
Blood of the Lamb
Word of Their Testimony

I don't have a defense for this one, nor have i tested it at all, but it seems pretty powerful with so many battle extenders. Death of Family, You will Remain, Boaz's Sandal, and Jephthah will all make sure you always have a hero in battle. I think it may need one more gold enhancement, and maybe swap out Loyalty for Devotion of Ruth, but I think this definitely has a shot to do well this year. Also, Lamenting is cbn on Ibzan, just throwing that out there.     

So, when I originally made this deck list, I didn't notice the Unity on Death of Family, so I have a slightly different list now. I'd take out Justin Martyr and The Woman with Child as they break the unity, and replace them with Angel with a Secret Name, for cbn judges enhancements, and othniel for low numbers and grabbing judges enhancements from the reserve. I'd put Deborah's Directive, Brother Against Brother, Dancing Wives and Sin and Justice in the reserve for sure, and you can put other things in, it's just personal preference. Those white judges enhancements are really nice because they can be used by the ruth characters and recurred by the Gleaning the Fields.     

Is the unity only important at the time of activation for placed enhancement? For example, I only have OT heroes in territory and I play Death of Family. Then I play down Justin Martyr. Does death of Family turn off then?

I would concur with that line of thinking.

Below is my updated offense. I'm not sure what to run for the defense though, anyone have any ideas? I was thinking maybe sadducees, as they actually got some pretty good NT black enhancements in this set between Wages, Heart of Depravity, and Darkness, and Prisoner at Gaza would be a pretty solid add then. Also, I'm open to taking any of those enhancements out of the reserve, I just threw them all in because they all work well in this deck and can be useful in certain situations. 

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Ruth (j)
Naomi (j)
Boaz (j)
Elders of the city (j)
Jephthah's Daughter
Abdon
Ibzan
Othniel, son of Kenaz
Angel with the Secret Name
The Angel of the Winds

Kinsmen's Agreement
Death of Family
Daughter's Grief
Family Bond
Gleaning the Fields
Loyalty of Ruth
Ruth meets Boaz

Boaz's Sandal
You Will Remain

Reserve
Jephathah
Deborah's Directive
Shibboleth
Brother's Conflict
Sin and Justice
Dancing Wives

Well the problem is there aren't really any defenses like that. maybe antediluvians, they got some pretty nice stuff this year. It's not Infinite battles, but they will recur their stuff.

Well the problem is there aren't really any defenses like that. maybe antediluvians, they got some pretty nice stuff this year. It's not Infinite battles, but they will recur their stuff.

Several defenses with recursion.  Maybe Demons?  They have Madness, Gates of Hell, you could throw in Unknown Nation as well.

Intraposted.

Scribe is really versatile too because he can even recur your good enhancements too if you don’t have ee’s to target

One issue with this offense is consistency.  The Ruth cards are almost all fully negatable, and the recursion cards are not nearly as effective if you draw them early.  Abdon and the Ruth characters simply don't impact the game enough when they hit the table or enter battle.

I've played around with this offense from time to time, and that was my experience.  However, I didn't have the new tools that FoM introduced, nor did I build my offense the way you did.  It's quite possible that my extrapolations are simply wrong.

Let us know how testing goes!

Yeah, that was my general problem with this deck. Daughter's grief and Jephthah's daughter add some much needed power, but i'm not sure it will be enough. This will probably be a better deck for newer players to use, but it should still be fun regardless. 

I can't imagine running a (mostly) white offense without Polycarp.

I can't imagine running a (mostly) white offence without Polycarp.

I can understand no Justin/Polycarp to keep Unity, but I kinda feel like the deck should run Overcome. It's powerful enough that I can't see running a white deck without it.

Update on this deck.

I was able to get a few games in this weekend, and it was a really fun deck to use. I used an orange demon defense, mixing the classic stuff with a few newer cards. It was mostly built around using the new Wages of Sin as many times as possible. I'll probably make a new post about that defense at some point.

As for the offense, it definitely has potential. The current build is a bit too disjointed between the judges and ruth stuff, but I think with one more gold enhancement in the main deck, it would probably work a bit better, as othniel was the only one who could grab the other ones out of the reserve, and I only had two others in the main deck. I may have to put in when judges governed, even though I really don't like that card that much.
I originally thought that I would use the ruth stuff a lot more than I did, but they were just really for set up. The offense really shines when you can get some of the judges stuff going. It's pretty fast, although I still need to figure out what the best cards are to grab first when I get searching cards early game. It's kind of difficult to decide, because you want the add to battle stuff early, but you can't really afford to grab it early game when you only have 2 or 3 heroes. So, TGWT may be a good add to get more heroes out, especially because it's so easy to grab your evil doms with wages. The only down side is it takes up your artifact slot, which is where you want Boaz's sandal, YWR, or Madness!     

So, some changes to make are fewer ruth cards, more judges, and another way to get heroes out.   

Edit: I swapped Abdon for Fearless Traveler, mostly because of the defense, and because I took out all the white judges stuff from the reserve for more defense.