Author Topic: Offense: Balancing Act (Read 4517 times)

Sean · « **on:** November 13, 2009, 03:12:56 PM »

I wanted to make a turtle that has an offense based around using Balance in the end game to decimate the opponent's defense. This is what I came up with. What do you think? I put DoN and Captured Ark there since they would be needed to take care of Wasting Disease and Darius' Decree. It's got a few things that it can do before the end game but the idea is to mostly wait in order to maximize Balance.

Cards in deck: 19

Grim Reaper Dominants: 1
   Destruction of Nehushtan

White Covenant Cards: 1
   Captured Ark (Crimson)

Red Covenant Cards: 1
   I am Creator

Green Covenant Cards: 1
   I am Patience

Silver Heroes: 2
   Angel at Jerusalem
   Cherubim

Red Heroes: 4
   Asahel
   Caleb
   Mentor
   Spy

Purple Heroes: 2
   Ethiopian Treasurer
   King Hezekiah

Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 3
   Balance
   Burning Censer
   Spiritual Warfare

Red Hero Enhancements: 3
   A Soldier's Prayer
   David's Mighty Men
   Freedom!

Purple Hero Enhancements: 1
   Authority of Christ

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #1 on:** November 13, 2009, 03:18:47 PM »

I keep seeing the word "turtle" referring to new decks, but what exactly is a turtle deck?

Master KChief · « **Reply #2 on:** November 13, 2009, 03:36:50 PM »

i truly believe balance is one of the most underrated and underused cards of all time, so props for trying a deck with it.

however, if you're playing with a turtle, you're more than likely going to have more evil out than good, which kinda counters balance.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #3 on:** November 13, 2009, 03:42:17 PM »

Pfft, i tried a deck with it a month or two ago.

The key to using balance effectively is using a deck with a HUGE amount of evil characters, and as few heroes as possible.

I guess I can go ahead and post this offense I made, the offense I'm keeping secret because its just so much fun:

Yes, this was in a 105 card deck, because that means I can have that many more EC's to offset the balance.

Cards in deck: 105
Fortresses: 3
   Jerusalem Tower
   Kerith Ravine
   Storehouse

Silver Heroes: 3
   Captain of the Host
   Seraph
   Seraph

Red Heroes: 1
   Jephthah

Green Heroes: 2
   Habakkuk
   Habakkuk

Purple Heroes: 2
   Ethiopian Treasurer
   Ethiopian Treasurer

Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 2
   Balance
   Brass Serpent

Silver Hero Enhancements: 2
   Gathering of Angels
   Gathering of Angels

I'd hold them off till they deck, then, drop any EEs i dont need into storehouse for that much more offset, then blast them. If they kept anyone in hand, Jephth + Captian should be enough to walk through.

lightningninja · « **Reply #4 on:** November 13, 2009, 03:44:45 PM »

Please tell me you have chariot of fire in there, Lambo?

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #5 on:** November 13, 2009, 03:46:04 PM »

The problem with Balance, is that because everything is discaded simultaneously Protection fortress' own it.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #6 on:** November 13, 2009, 03:50:34 PM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on November 13, 2009, 03:46:04 PM

The problem with Balance, is that because everything is discaded simultaneously Protection fortress' own it.

See my deck for the solution. Habakkuk is awesome.

Quote from: lightningninja on November 13, 2009, 03:44:45 PM

Please tell me you have chariot of fire in there, Lambo?

Nope. I have two of each hero I need, plus Brass Serpent. I can keep guys in K Ravine or in hand if I need to.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #7 on:** November 13, 2009, 03:51:57 PM »

Yeah, Habakkuk is great.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #8 on:** November 13, 2009, 03:55:25 PM »

Btw, I only got to play one game with this offense, but it did in fact win. Discarding over 20 evil cards in one hit was very satisfying.

Crashfach2002 · « **Reply #9 on:** November 13, 2009, 04:16:10 PM »

Is balance able to get rid of placed evil cards as well?

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #10 on:** November 13, 2009, 04:19:25 PM »

Yes. Balance kills ANY evil cards in play, so long as they arent protected, which shouldn't happen if you use Habakkuk.

This includes:

Evil Characters
Evil enhancements in storehouses or in battle or placed elsewhere in play
Evil fortresses
Curses

Crashfach2002 · « **Reply #11 on:** November 13, 2009, 04:21:26 PM »

I thought so, cool!

Master KChief · « **Reply #12 on:** November 13, 2009, 04:22:25 PM »

habbakuk only hits wc ec's. what if they have non-wc ec's that are protected by a fort?

i can see a turtle of this deck doing fairly well. i am holy to hit any evil in hand, set fire to hit their backfield, and balance/cap for game. just curious, why cap over tsa?

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #13 on:** November 13, 2009, 04:23:09 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on November 13, 2009, 04:22:25 PM

habbakuk only hits wc ec's. what if they have non-wc ec's that are protected by a fort?

i can see a turtle of this deck doing fairly well. i am holy to hit any evil in hand, set fire to hit their backfield, and balance/cap for game. just curious, why cap over tsa?

Read Habbakuk's SA. Also, Gathering is one of my favorite cards in the game.

*edit*

Captian might encourage them to put more than one EC down to band, Jephth hits both next turn.

Master KChief · « **Reply #14 on:** November 13, 2009, 04:24:52 PM »

...you may discard a warrior class evil character...

im asking about evil characters that are not wc, but are still protected by forts.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #15 on:** November 13, 2009, 04:25:36 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on November 13, 2009, 04:24:52 PM

...you may discard a warrior class evil character...

im asking about evil characters that are not wc, but are still protected by forts.

You skipped over the only reason I put Habakkuk in there.

Master KChief · « **Reply #16 on:** November 13, 2009, 04:28:38 PM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on November 13, 2009, 04:25:36 PM

Quote from: Master KChief on November 13, 2009, 04:24:52 PM
...you may discard a warrior class evil character...

im asking about evil characters that are not wc, but are still protected by forts.

You skipped over the only reason I put Habakkuk in there.

which was explicitly stated? no.

im guessing you gather habbakuk into your seraphim/et/balance band.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #17 on:** November 13, 2009, 04:29:22 PM »

Bingo.

But, I thought my comment of loving gathering was pretty obvious.

Master KChief · « **Reply #18 on:** November 13, 2009, 04:31:07 PM »

my first impression was using cap with gathering.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #19 on:** November 13, 2009, 04:33:15 PM »

Hehe. Naw, anyone who knows my decks would realize I use gathering on someone else.

Remember, I pretty much specialize in combo offenses.

However, I think I could easily throw in I am Holy + chamber + another angel to help empty their hand.

Master KChief · « **Reply #20 on:** November 13, 2009, 04:35:11 PM »

thats what i do in my turtles. if you're turtling, you kinda wanna cripple them in every way. if they see you're using i am holy, they'll more than likely drop their ec's in territory, creating more food for balance.

the three angels i always use for chamber/i am holy loops are tsa, cap, and gabe. you probably just need to simply add in tsa.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #21 on:** November 13, 2009, 04:42:01 PM »

Yeah. Also, gathering is great in endgame/combo decks, because you usually have to wait for them to deck, so why not just add some extra punch with a band.

Sean · « **Reply #22 on:** November 13, 2009, 05:06:40 PM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on November 13, 2009, 03:46:04 PM

The problem with Balance, is that because everything is discaded simultaneously Protection fortress' own it.

That's why I put in Burning Censer.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #23 on:** November 13, 2009, 05:12:58 PM »

Quote from: Sean on November 13, 2009, 05:06:40 PM

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on November 13, 2009, 03:46:04 PM
The problem with Balance, is that because everything is discaded simultaneously Protection fortress' own it.
That's why I put in Burning Censer.

i dont really like BC that much. Its easily negated and gives the EC's more initative when they block you (and it doesnt even kill anyone), since theres no *normally* feasable way to play both BC and balance before they block. Its possible, but its difficult. I find it easier to just gather in Habakkuk.

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