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Re: Egyptian essentials
« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2012, 01:02:56 PM »
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Not drawing cards is simply far to strong to make the card dead.

Not really. Unless this card is dropped early game, as said before many meta decks have serious threats on the board already going for game. Negging your opponent 3 the next turn will have little effect on the current game state.  If we're trying to put a stop on drawing cards, there are far better options that have permanent effects until removed.

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if you can play it vs ANY DECK in the meta game you basically just timewalked if the opponet isn't going in for three.

Emphasis mine. I've already stated why Besieging is a terrible card against the meta. The card is simply too slow for T1 where the format is defined by speed and consistency. A card that sets up future advantage, does absolutely nothing to stop the current rescue, and is barely a threat against the current meta is not consistent and certainly does not deserve a deck slot in the very limited room T1 is afforded.
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Re: Egyptian essentials
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2012, 01:43:40 PM »
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ADV=Advantage

And u can't get around it if you don't have initiative so again play it and follow with failed or WF and its a 2 turn block plus slows ur opponent and speeds you up

I personally would play it over failed objective if it was one or the other

It's not half as good as FO. If you can pull it off awesome, but that will be rare. As I said before, I played it, it slowed down my Deck and I found other cards that are 100% better then it. So unless you like losing a Character for a card that doesn't stop an Opponent from winning the game, but only delays him a turn, and most good players will be able to pull off lots of combos that go right around that card, or worse negate it all together. (unless your planing on Discarding a useful Character which just becomes a waste of a good card for a less useful one) no matter how you play it out, it's a bad trade off.

@Jmhertz Ammy Slave and UN speed my deck up so fast, that one or the other will never pull them both off together. One or the other will just not Search at all. And Cupbearer already gives me my SoulGen. (And I was thinking of adding a Prisoner Transfer with Warden for another Soul)

As for Pithom, I use it more for the anti-Dom part. Also, I do use the second part, (put a Good Card in a Territory under Deck) as well as for UN. Given Over is too easy for an Opponent to hit with all the TC anti-Curse cards. But an Opponent can't get rid of Pithom easily, if at all. Plus I can hit TGT with it. I would use Given Over if I had more room in my Deck. (I have a long list of cards that I would use if I had room in my Deck for them)
They seem pretty lame as fighters maybe we should challenge them to a dance off or a redemption game

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« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2012, 01:54:34 PM »
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We have to agree I disagree bc I am sure of how I play it and u r too
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Re: Egyptian essentials
« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2012, 02:03:43 PM »
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@Jmhertz Ammy Slave and UN speed my deck up so fast, that one or the other will never pull them both off together. One or the other will just not Search at all. And Cupbearer already gives me my SoulGen. (And I was thinking of adding a Prisoner Transfer with Warden for another Soul)

Whats wrong with both TAS and UN in the same deck? They're both fantastic utility cards. I would argue TAS is the best toolbox card in the game if you can get it off. The only downside to them is they're almost useless against the current meta (unless UN grabs a Goliath or Herod the Great or whatever). But what other choice does Evil Gold have? :/
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« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2012, 02:11:51 PM »
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I play both and uzzah then if UN doesn't get drawn early uzzah can use it
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Re: Egyptian essentials
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2012, 02:15:30 PM »
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I'm the same way when teching in artifacts that might not be optimal against some matchups. If they don't get used, they become Uzzah food. Never a bad thing.

If the Egyptian defense does end up using both Uzzah and TAS, then you're one short step from using Haman's plot. Perhaps splash in another brown EC for consistency. King Manny is always a versatile choice.
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« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2012, 02:19:38 PM »
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I never thought Gomer was a bad option
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Re: Egyptian essentials
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2012, 02:26:23 PM »
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Gomer is pretty solid because of her cbn ability, low numbers for initiative, and generally better in the TGT matchup, but I chose King Manny over her because he's just so toolbox. Access to Haman's Plot, Magic Charms, Magician's Snakes, banding, and a built-in battle winner for clutch plays is pretty impressive. But if you have the room, there's little reason not to just use both.
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Re: Egyptian essentials
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2012, 03:19:04 PM »
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@Jmhertz Ammy Slave and UN speed my deck up so fast, that one or the other will never pull them both off together. One or the other will just not Search at all. And Cupbearer already gives me my SoulGen. (And I was thinking of adding a Prisoner Transfer with Warden for another Soul)

Whats wrong with both TAS and UN in the same deck? They're both fantastic utility cards. I would argue TAS is the best toolbox card in the game if you can get it off. The only downside to them is they're almost useless against the current meta (unless UN grabs a Goliath or Herod the Great or whatever). But what other choice does Evil Gold have? :/

My Deck is too fast is what's wrong. When I attempted it, I couldn't pull both off. But as for what to Search, I pull TDP, EM or just a pull out in case I need Another Character. It helps me a lot especially Since I can pull it off a lot.
They seem pretty lame as fighters maybe we should challenge them to a dance off or a redemption game

 


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