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You are not including evil dominants right?  So I assume your defense already includes Burial, Falling Away, DON, Martyr?

If you can still have dominants, and they don't have an annoying card like Fishing Boat, and all you want to do is slow your opponent down, I'd go with sites.

Be careful about adding Nazareth (since it stops a lot of things that you might later want to do) , maybe Pergamum, and the new site that protects your other sites, then either mix up the remaining site colors or go all silver and hope they are not playing Angels.  Babylons and Bab Banq Hall are also good options.  Maybe add an offensive card or two that can search for a site.  Then add Wastelands and either Captured Ark or Confusion of Mind.  Another option is to add a Philistine and the territory class EE that takes an opponent's site.

Make sure you are using the Two liner LS, the Site doubler LS, First Round protect LS, and then the NT lost souls that allow you to stop dominants and/or shuffle your LS.

Seriously, unless people put a ton of site access into their deck, or have a lot of "access to any site" heroes, this will stall a fast deck.  They can't play Harvest Time.  They can use cards like Hopper and Am Slave, but hopefully you can take care of those with your own dominants.  They basically have to wait until their site access cards appear, and once it does you can hopefully either shuffle it or discard it (or steal it).  Use a the maximum number of cards in your deck per lost soul, to reduce your chances of drawing a lost soul.

Anyway, I know that many out there today say that sites are dead, and it may be true for site-lockout, but sites are still a very good stall defense in my opinion.

steffer, he has Martyr, no other dominants.

I think steffer may be on to something. If you use site stall, the speediness of disciples is hurt bad because they can't use Fishing Boat.

7 Green Sites
Mayhem
Burial?

The main thing is make sure you have plenty of heros and ge's to make a successful ra each turn. If your offense is solid, then you're really only looking to make a couple successful blocks.

I like the 1/1 PG with Confusion, but it's pretty risky. If you're going to do that, I'd use a small PG defense with that included.

The defenseless site stall vs disciples is about worthless. It can work, but usually you just hand them free ls's. Imo, it's better to use real ECs (uzzah is a beast), because they're going to have access or enough ls's out during the game to win quickly.

I'm hoping that at Nationals this year someone will play OT heroes and put Rome destroys Jerusalem in their deck.  I'd really like to hear about Disciples players who forgot about that card

Uzzah
PO
PG
PAB
12FG
KoT
Amal's Slave
HP
Mayhem

I think you should also have two fluff cards in your offense that can be removed for FA and Burial as well.

Bringing Fear? Only one of the best enhancements in the game for philly's.

Foolish Advice>Bringing Fear

Mayhem people. You cannot forget Mayhem in these defenses.

Foolish Advice>Bringing Fear

Mayhem people. You cannot forget Mayhem in these defenses.

Foolish advice may have more toughness (and it's from the Women's set) but Bringing Fear makes it so your enhancements aren't negated.

A. This is a mostly offensive deck. Mayhem needs to be added, essentially making these defenses 8 cards.
B. In an 8 card Philly defense, you aren't going to have room for more than 2 enhancements, so it really doesn't matter if you need to play your enhancements. Especially since the other one will probably be Bringing Fear anyway.
C. I cannot think of a good card that negates Foolish Advice. I guess The Battle is the Lords will do it, but if they're using red, you've already won. Or lost, since a Philly defense dies against red.

AHHHH...a seven card defense?!? LOL

So anyway, Gabe, you think that Unholy Writ is worth it with all of the anti-capture stuff floating around now? Alright, so I need to add Unholy Writ and Mayhem. Any other staples I should include? I might end up making this an all offense deck at this rate.

Also, what is GiC

Got it...thanks John. I can always count on you.  Oh and you left your lemonade at our house. I added it to my sweet tea...mmmmm...Arnold Palmer (not the golfer, the drink).

Burial Shroud could be good. I'm not really a fan of it, but many great players like Daniel Whitten swore by it, so it's worth consideration.

Another one of his favorite plays was Claudia+ET+Obedience of Noah choosing his own Woman as Snares to give himself lost souls to rescue FTW!