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Title: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Beautiful Light on October 17, 2011, 05:10:20 PM
Does anyone have the answers to these questions...How common are the dominants in the TXP packs? What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath or a Mayhem? In a box of 24 packs, is there approximately 1 Grapes, 2 Grapes, more? I am considering buying an entire box of TXP's just to get a Grapes and a Mayhem, but I don't know if it is worth it. Will I even get one of each? Help please!  ;D
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: CJSports on October 17, 2011, 05:15:44 PM
On average I think it is like 2 per box. So either 2 Mayhem and 0 Grapes, 1 and 1 or 0 and 2. It varies. My brother got 0 the first time and got like 3 of each the next time so it really can vary.
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: soul seeker on October 17, 2011, 05:19:42 PM
 +1  with the above based upon my experience as well.  I did well with my TxP box because I got 4.  (It was either 3 Mayhem and 1 Grapes or 2 of each---can't remember because it's been awhile).  I think if you have the money, then a box is the way to go.
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Red Wing on October 17, 2011, 05:20:00 PM
Does anyone have the answers to these questions...How common are the dominants in the TXP packs? What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath or a Mayhem? In a box of 24 packs, is there approximately 1 Grapes, 2 Grapes, more? I am considering buying an entire box of TXP's just to get a Grapes and a Mayhem, but I don't know if it is worth it. Will I even get one of each? Help please!  ;D

Each TeXP packs come with 2 TeXP cards so you have a 2 out of 60 chance of getting a Grapes or Mayhem in each pack. TeXP also aren't divided into rare/ultra rare/common/uncommon categories, so you have an equal chance of getting a dominant as anything else. I recently pulled a Grapes from a TeXP pack. 
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: CJSports on October 17, 2011, 05:23:15 PM
This probably isn't true, Rob probably puts less of the Doms into circulation just to keep trading up which helps him because then people  will buy more TeP packs to get the Doms which is good business. I could be completely wrong about this though.
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Red Wing on October 17, 2011, 05:29:37 PM
This probably isn't true, Rob probably puts less of the Doms into circulation just to keep trading up which helps him because then people  will buy more TeP packs to get the Doms which is good business. I could be completely wrong about this though.

Yeah I might be wrong. I dont how Rob does this.
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Beautiful Light on October 17, 2011, 05:32:41 PM
Wow! Hearing of everyone's experience/success with this already helps a lot! Thank you everyone! I will save up some money for the box and hope that my chances are good. I'd really love to pull 2 Grapes and 2 Mayhems out, but that seems near impossible. I bought 10 packs last week and only got 1 Grapes from it, but hopefully that isn't the norm.  If anyone else has had successful attempts or failing attempts at getting dominants from a whole box, please share!  :)
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on October 17, 2011, 05:40:20 PM
If you're doing it to just get the Grapes/Mayhem it isn't worth it. You can buy those fairly priced individually.
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Captain Kirk on October 17, 2011, 06:11:06 PM
If you're doing it to just get the Grapes/Mayhem it isn't worth it. You can buy those fairly priced individually.

I will second this point. If you only want a couple cards from a set, I usually find it more cost effective to just buy those cards out right. However, if you are wanting to get a plethora of cards from a set and hope to potentially get a few specific cards amidst all the others, then a box may be the way to go

I usually opened 2 of Mayhem/Grapes per box (out of a sample of 5 boxes).

Kirk
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Master KChief on October 17, 2011, 06:26:55 PM
2 is the average per box.
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Drrek on October 17, 2011, 07:43:40 PM
I've opened 29 txp (a box of them plus others from booster and a couple I bought at a tournament because like 3 mayhems in a row got opened and I figured I might as well try) packs and have found 0 Grapes and only one mayhem... Perhaps I'm just unlucky though.
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: lp670sv on October 17, 2011, 07:47:07 PM
I've opened 29 txp (a box of them plus others from booster and a couple I bought at a tournament because like 3 mayhems in a row got opened and I figured I might as well try) packs and have found 0 Grapes and only one mayhem... Perhaps I'm just unlucky though.

well if 3 mayhems were already pulled from that box that significantly reduces your chances of getting a dom from the remaining packs.
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Drrek on October 17, 2011, 07:52:25 PM
I've opened 29 txp (a box of them plus others from booster and a couple I bought at a tournament because like 3 mayhems in a row got opened and I figured I might as well try) packs and have found 0 Grapes and only one mayhem... Perhaps I'm just unlucky though.

well if 3 mayhems were already pulled from that box that significantly reduces your chances of getting a dom from the remaining packs.

I know, but it made the packs seem so appealing and magical.  Don't try bringing logic into my impulse buy...
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: SomeKittens on October 17, 2011, 07:57:47 PM
I've opened 29 txp (a box of them plus others from booster and a couple I bought at a tournament because like 3 mayhems in a row got opened and I figured I might as well try) packs and have found 0 Grapes and only one mayhem... Perhaps I'm just unlucky though.

well if 3 mayhems were already pulled from that box that significantly reduces your chances of getting a dom from the remaining packs.
Actually, the chance is the same for each pack, regardless of other packs opened.
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: lp670sv on October 17, 2011, 08:00:06 PM
I've opened 29 txp (a box of them plus others from booster and a couple I bought at a tournament because like 3 mayhems in a row got opened and I figured I might as well try) packs and have found 0 Grapes and only one mayhem... Perhaps I'm just unlucky though.

well if 3 mayhems were already pulled from that box that significantly reduces your chances of getting a dom from the remaining packs.
Actually, the chance is the same for each pack, regardless of other packs opened.

The chance of in the same box is not though. There's an average of what 2 to 4 of these per box? and 3 were already pulled from that box?
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: SomeKittens on October 17, 2011, 08:03:14 PM
As far as we know, each pack is compiled separately, so each pull is independent of other pulls.
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: lp670sv on October 17, 2011, 08:06:19 PM
As far as we know, each pack is compiled separately, so each pull is independent of other pulls.

Right but the average as stated by people in this thread who have had experience with buying full booster boxes, is 2-4.
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on October 17, 2011, 08:12:28 PM
Gambler's Fallacy
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Ken4Christ4ever on October 17, 2011, 08:25:14 PM
On average (if you open a LOT of Thesaurus packs), you will get a complete set every 30 packs, so you should get a Grapes of Wrath on average every 30 packs. They are completely evenly distributed. Rob didn't keep dominants out to make people buy more. When he says they all have the same rarity, he means it. :)

If you're interested in a Thesaurus box, keep your eye on the Deal of the Day at Three Lions Gaming.... There will be one coming up within the next couple weeks on Thesaurus packs, which are only $4.50 normally already!

Ken
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Beautiful Light on October 17, 2011, 08:27:04 PM
Alright, so between a friend of mine and myself, we bought a box and split it, and the results...2 Grapes of Wrath and No Mayhems. Not bad, would have liked a Mayhem though, but I can't complain because I needed Consider the Lillies and finally got one. I'll try again for Mayhem.
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Beautiful Light on October 17, 2011, 08:29:24 PM
Thank you Ken for the advice on the "Deal of the Day" at Three Lions. I will keep an eye out for TXP!
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: SomeKittens on October 17, 2011, 08:30:13 PM
Oh, and also: Welcome to the forums!
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Beautiful Light on October 17, 2011, 09:57:58 PM
Thank you SomeKittens! It is great to be here!  :laugh:
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Beautiful Light on October 17, 2011, 10:45:26 PM
Just wondering...has anyone ever gotten more than 4 dominants in an entire box of TXPs? I'd love to hear it if you have!
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Beautiful Light on October 18, 2011, 05:16:50 PM
No one huh? Oh well, I figured there might be a chance, haha  ::)
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Red Wing on October 18, 2011, 05:29:34 PM
Those would be the best packs EVER  :)
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Beautiful Light on October 18, 2011, 05:43:12 PM
haha, I know! It was worth a shot asking though. Hey, you never know!
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Drrek on October 22, 2011, 06:24:30 PM
After today, I just wanted to post in this thread again, that today on the 30th TxP pack I have opened (today during a booster draft) I finally pulled a Grapes of Wrath.  This was a little of a mixed blessing as my opponent was able to get 2 gomers because of this (with the royalty tin no less), but I am very happy finally getting a grapes.
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: TechnoEthicist on October 22, 2011, 07:32:22 PM
funny enough there were 2 grapes in that box...why do I sell packs again without opening them??? :P
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: SomeKittens on October 22, 2011, 07:42:24 PM
funny enough there were 2 grapes in that box...why do I sell packs again without opening them??? :P
I think the opposite every time I open a dud pack.
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: lightningninja on October 22, 2011, 07:57:53 PM
Just keep in mind you could get a LOT of duplicated that are not dominants. The texp and di packs are some of the least random packs. It's very easy to get duplicate packs (In my box of texp I opened three packs with King Ahaz and Habbakuk Stands Watch), but also 3 Grapes of Wrath. If you're not so lucky with your duplicated, you could get no dominants.

Just don't buy it with the idea that you're going to get almost the entire set. You probably won't even get 30 unique cards.
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Drrek on October 22, 2011, 08:48:57 PM
funny enough there were 2 grapes in that box...why do I sell packs again without opening them??? :P

Yeah the past three tournaments I've been to where you were at them, your packs were giving out doms like crazy.  Oddly enough they were pretty much only giving them to people who didn't have those doms yet.
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Prof Underwood on October 23, 2011, 09:06:11 AM
your packs were giving out doms like crazy.  Oddly enough they were pretty much only giving them to people who didn't have those doms yet.
"Coincidence is when God decides to remain anonymous." :)
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Dario Dante on October 24, 2011, 04:14:54 PM
your packs were giving out doms like crazy.  Oddly enough they were pretty much only giving them to people who didn't have those doms yet.
"Coincidence is when God decides to remain anonymous." :)


I know right!!!
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Beautiful Light on October 29, 2011, 02:25:51 PM
Ok, so I splurged for the box, and the results are 1 Grapes, 1 Mayhem! I'm very happy with this!! I would have liked 1 more Mayhem, but 1 and 1 is already hard to get it seems, so I am thankful!!!!!
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Dario Dante on October 29, 2011, 02:26:47 PM
Ok, so I splurged for the box, and the results are 1 Grapes, 1 Mayhem! I'm very happy with this!! I would have liked 1 more Mayhem, but 1 and 1 is already hard to get it seems, so I am thankful!!!!!

And hopefully I'll buy mine on Thursday!!!
Title: Re: What are the chances of getting a Grapes of Wrath?
Post by: Beautiful Light on October 29, 2011, 02:29:53 PM
Ok, so I splurged for the box, and the results are 1 Grapes, 1 Mayhem! I'm very happy with this!! I would have liked 1 more Mayhem, but 1 and 1 is already hard to get it seems, so I am thankful!!!!!

And hopefully I'll buy mine on Thursday!!!

Yeah!!! And hopefully you will get a couple of dominants too!!  :)
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