Author Topic: Why I don't like Garden Tomb (Read 44854 times)

Captain Kirk · « **Reply #175 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:56:32 AM »

I still laugh at Garden Tomb non-stop since I love to play small offenses... If the card really gives you fits, just play a patient game and don't attack until your defense is set up...

Kirk

Tsavong Lah · « **Reply #176 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:57:30 AM »

Assyrian Camp and House of Rimmon both protect from capture. Gold has enough useful women, especially if you're running deck discard, to not worry about WaS much.

Gabe · « **Reply #177 on:** August 11, 2009, 09:14:59 AM »

I rarely found Women as Snares to be that helpful in my TGT offense. Sure, she may clear out a defense, but unless you're playing Pale Green she isn't going to win the battle so you end up giving up a LS. Then she creates a lot more souls that you have to defend.

Holy Grail on the other hand is extremely useful. I imagine we'll see a few more orange brigade defenses this year though so that may change.

MitchRobStew · « **Reply #178 on:** August 11, 2009, 10:10:27 AM »

Quote from: Bryon on August 11, 2009, 01:54:01 AM

Assyrians and Philistines both have forts that protect from capture. The Philistine one lets you activate Altar of Dagon, which will protect from convert even in battle, which is very nice for those initiative-giving giants. Blue Tassles works nicely, too.

I think Gates of Jerusalem protects from capture. Does House of Rimmon (Syrians)?

Yep Gates, and House of Rimmon offer some of the best protection in the game. Gates protects from all of opponents cards. Rimmon protects from capture but is lacking in conversion protection.

House of Rimmon: Protect Syrian Evil Characters in your territory from shuffle, capture, and discard unless Elisha is in play.

Gates: Protect evil Kings and Queens of Judah in your territory from opponent's cards. If one blocks, its special ability cannot be negated and you may draw a card.

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #179 on:** August 11, 2009, 10:51:50 AM »

Assyrian Camp protects from discard capture and convert! Assyrians are good too!

TheHobbit13 · « **Reply #180 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:19:03 PM »

Quote from: Bryon on August 11, 2009, 12:49:26 AM

(1) the few cards that make it really easy to get rid of ECs in a territory,

Holy unto the Lord
Jepthah
Hamans plot
Head of Gold
Authority of Christ
A Child is born
Habbakuk
Habbakuk stands watch
Nathan
Two possessed by demons
Holy Grail
Women as Snares
He is Risen!
Samson's sacrifice
Judges seat

Master KChief · « **Reply #181 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:24:06 PM »

i find it ironic that everyone is listing the territory-defenders that were available prior to texp as viable counters to tgt...yet that still didn't stop tgt from sweeping nationals. HMM.

TheHobbit13 · « **Reply #182 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:25:43 PM »

Quote from: BrianGabe on August 11, 2009, 09:14:59 AM

Sure, she may clear out a defense, but unless you're playing Pale Green she Holy Grail on the other hand is extremely useful.

Quote from: ejberkenpas22 on August 11, 2009, 10:51:50 AM

Assyrian Camp protects from discard capture and convert! Assyrians are good too!

That is why I pair them with The Garden Tomb.

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #183 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:34:43 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on August 11, 2009, 01:24:06 PM

i find it ironic that everyone is listing the territory-defenders that were available prior to texp as viable counters to tgt...yet that still didn't stop tgt from sweeping nationals. HMM.

I don't know why no one played these...no one wanted to stray away from splash defense I guess...idk...i wasnt at nationals.

Gabe · « **Reply #184 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:49:38 PM »

The problem wasn't that nobody used Protection Fortresses. I faced at least two that I remember. There might have been more. Not everyone wants to play a civilization that has a Fortress available though.

There's no territory protection that stops everything. Then there's Trumpet Blast to take care of the protection Fortresses. Then you have the problem that the Evil Character have to block at some point and survive the battle....

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #185 on:** August 11, 2009, 02:01:52 PM »

Doesn't Assyrian Camp stop everything? Capture, Discard, and conversion...what else is there?

Master KChief · « **Reply #186 on:** August 11, 2009, 02:05:22 PM »

shuffle.

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #187 on:** August 11, 2009, 02:11:50 PM »

what cards shuffle EC's in territories? Im not doubting there are some but I am just not familiar with them.

Master KChief · « **Reply #188 on:** August 11, 2009, 02:14:29 PM »

pretty much anything in the green brigade...nathan and two bears come to mind.

Gabe · « **Reply #189 on:** August 11, 2009, 02:38:13 PM »

Assyrian Camp doesn't protect from shuffle (Holy Unto the Lord) or place beneath deck (Passoever and Unleven Bread). Assyrians are also large and give up initiative every battle unless they have 2KHorses.

STAMP · « **Reply #190 on:** August 11, 2009, 02:43:35 PM »

Quote from: ejberkenpas22 on August 11, 2009, 02:11:50 PM

what cards shuffle EC's in territories? Im not doubting there are some but I am just not familiar with them.

Anewbedoobedoo!!

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #191 on:** August 11, 2009, 02:52:41 PM »

Quote from: STAMP on August 11, 2009, 02:43:35 PM

Quote from: ejberkenpas22 on August 11, 2009, 02:11:50 PM
what cards shuffle EC's in territories? Im not doubting there are some but I am just not familiar with them.

Anewbedoobedoo!!

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The Warrior · « **Reply #192 on:** August 11, 2009, 02:55:54 PM »

Quote from: ejberkenpas22 on August 11, 2009, 02:52:41 PM

Quote from: STAMP on August 11, 2009, 02:43:35 PM
Quote from: ejberkenpas22 on August 11, 2009, 02:11:50 PM
what cards shuffle EC's in territories? Im not doubting there are some but I am just not familiar with them.

Anewbedoobedoo!!

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Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #193 on:** August 11, 2009, 02:58:19 PM »

A New Beginning

It's just much more fun to say it that way.

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #194 on:** August 11, 2009, 03:12:37 PM »

hahahah...ok. i thought i was being called a newb. thanks for the clarification!

Captain Falcon · « **Reply #195 on:** August 11, 2009, 03:41:58 PM »

Ignore.

lightningninja · « **Reply #196 on:** August 11, 2009, 05:43:27 PM »

Yeah, I used a new beginning twice against Assyrian defenses. It worked great, got rid of horses and then I'd get initiative and win the battle.

TheHobbit13 · « **Reply #197 on:** August 11, 2009, 08:45:06 PM »

Quote from: lightningninja on August 11, 2009, 05:43:27 PM

Yeah, I used a new beginning twice against Assyrian defenses. It worked great, got rid of horses and then I'd get initiative and win the battle.

I assume you mean you shuffled in the horses, becuase ANB cannot discard it.

Quote from: TH3 UNF0RG1V4BL3 on August 11, 2009, 03:41:58 PM

Ignore.

M&M is this part of being moderated or do you enjoy speaking in one word sentences?

lightningninja · « **Reply #198 on:** August 11, 2009, 10:37:02 PM »

He's saying it doesn't stop pre-block ignore.

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