Author Topic: GOAL: Assemble a companion pack of cards to improve the I/J decks. (Read 4975 times)

uthminister [BR] · « **on:** April 04, 2017, 04:30:17 PM »

I am wanting to put together something similar to the TLG Deckbuilders but that could be sold alongside the I/J decks to help improve them right out of the box. Not necessarily an easy thing to do and keep them comparably strong. My goal is to have anywhere between 12 and 20 cards that could be added to or could replace the cards in either the I or J deck (I would have one for each deck). I would ideally like to keep them between $10 and $20 retail so no TSC. I would also like to maintain the themes in each deck. If you would be willing to help me put together this I would be most appreciative. I think this could be a great way to make the game a little more accessible like the Deckbuilders have.

What cards would you put into the I deck?
What cards would you take out of the I deck?
What cards would you put into the J deck?
What cards would you take out of the J deck?

The Guardian · « **Reply #1 on:** April 04, 2017, 04:48:27 PM »

I love doing this kind of thing...I'll put some lists together tonight.

Kor · « **Reply #2 on:** April 05, 2017, 01:50:25 AM »

You say you want to maintain the themes...so no removing one of the colors and replacing it with more of the other? Or is that okay if it keeps with the other theme?

Until I know more, some good buys for purple (i)

Matthew ($1.25)
Sons of thunder ($0.25)
Reach of desperation ($0.50)
Authority of Christ ($0.50)
Ethiopian Treasurer ($0.25)

uthminister [BR] · « **Reply #3 on:** April 05, 2017, 01:16:26 PM »

I am doing a homeschool convention in a couple weeks and just had this idea. I do not want to remove a color/theme, but want to add and replace cards already in the I/J decks to make them better and give the person more deck building options with a starter deck and one of the packs I want to create. Hope that clarifies my intentions.

The Guardian · « **Reply #4 on:** April 05, 2017, 06:35:51 PM »

I deck: 52 cards (Leaves room for a couple extra dominants or artifacts if you want to include those)

Cut:
Angel at Bethesda
Legion of Angels
Angelic News
Andrew
Miraculous Catch
Loaves and Fishes
Water to Wine
Raising of Lazarus
Lahmi
Achan
To Each his Own
Ashtaroth Worship

Add:
James son of Alphaeus 1.00
Matthew (Levi) 1.25
Reach of Desperation .50
Attending Angel (TxP) 1.00
Servant Angel .10
Cherubim (WA) 1.00
Striking Herod 1.75
The Twelve Fingered Giant 1.00
King Achish 1.25
Foolish Advice .25
Gomer (TxP) 2.50
Complainers .50
Wickedness of the Tenants .25
Gibeonite Trickery .25

Total value TLG: $12.60

Kor · « **Reply #5 on:** April 05, 2017, 07:03:28 PM »

My (I) deck cut would be:

Andrew > Matthew (di) $1.25
Peter > Thomas (di) $1.00
Miraculous Catch > Reach of desperation $0.50
Angelic News > The Lord rebuke you! $2.00
Loaves and Fishes > Striking Herod $1.75
Legion of Angels > Attending Angel $1.00
Raising Lazarus > Authority of Christ $0.50
Strife > Scattered $1.50
To each his own > Dungeon of Malchiah $0.75
Achan > Jezebel (RoA) $0.75
Nabal > King Ahab (RoA) $0.75
Astaroth Worship > Hezikiah’s Signet Ring $2.50
Ishbibinob’s Sword > Bringing Fear $2.00
Generic Lost Soul > Color Guard LS $0.75

ADD > King Zedikiah $0.75
ADD > Any generic purple site (like prison or Assyria) $0.25?
ADD > Simon the Zealot $1.50
ADD > Sons of Thunder $0.25
ADD > Wickedness Abounds $0.25

Total is $20

uthminister [BR] · « **Reply #6 on:** April 06, 2017, 09:17:29 AM »

Those are both fantastic lists. I will get moving on the I deck with those ideas in mind. How about the J deck?

Crashfach2002 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 06, 2017, 11:39:08 AM »

Quote from: uthminister [BR] on April 06, 2017, 09:17:29 AM

Those are both fantastic lists. I will get moving on the I deck with those ideas in mind. How about the J deck?

Shamgar => Jair $1.00
Gideon => Gideon (CoW) $1.25
Samson => Moses (G) $0.50
Sword of Gideon => Faith of Gideon $1.50
Sing and Praise => Ambush the City $1.75
Sword of the Lord => Word of Encouragment (WA) $0.50
Pilate's Soldiers => Emperor Claudius $3.00
Mocking Soldiers => Emperor Nero $1.25
Quirinius => The Entrapping Pharisees $0.75
Roman Whip => Expelling the Jews $0.25
Sorrow of Mary => Balaam's Disobedience $2.00
Possessing Demon => Prince of this World $4.00
Unclean Spirit => Messenger of Satan $0.75
Controlling Demon => Fallen Angel $0.50
Persistent Pestering => Fearfulness $0.75

There are so many ways you can go, but this gives the offense more speed and power, while bumping the defense a ton!

The Guardian · « **Reply #8 on:** April 06, 2017, 12:01:31 PM »

Toss in a Sandal and I like that list a lot!

uthminister [BR] · « **Reply #9 on:** April 06, 2017, 05:00:24 PM »

If I was wanting to and up with two 56 card decks, what other cards might get thrown into each deck that are not already in the lists above?

The Guardian · « **Reply #10 on:** April 06, 2017, 05:11:59 PM »

Quote from: uthminister [BR] on April 06, 2017, 05:00:24 PM

If I was wanting to and up with two 56 card decks, what other cards might get thrown into each deck that are not already in the lists above?

Are you wanting to introduce Artifacts into these decks or keep them like the starter decks? Also, is adding extra dominants an option?

Crashfach2002 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 06, 2017, 05:28:36 PM »

Quote from: uthminister [BR] on April 06, 2017, 05:00:24 PM

If I was wanting to and up with two 56 card decks, what other cards might get thrown into each deck that are not already in the lists above?

I would have to modify some. I was trying to maximize the $20 in a $50 card deck.

uthminister [BR] · « **Reply #12 on:** April 07, 2017, 12:55:41 AM »

I think an artifact would be good for each deck. Sandals is a good add like you suggested. Is there one that would be good for the other deck. Feel free to modify your lists and discuss it. I will not likely get to assembling them till next week anyway.

The Guardian · « **Reply #13 on:** April 07, 2017, 02:23:18 AM »

New Covenant and Four Drachma Coin would be added to my list for the I deck.

Then I would probably add a couple inexpensive dominants like Burial and Vain to get to 56.

The Schaefer · « **Reply #14 on:** April 07, 2017, 04:53:16 PM »

here is my list for the I deck

take out 14 cards

angel at bethesda
gathering angel
legion of angels
Fishers of men
loaves and fishes
angelic news
miraculous catch
raising of lazarus
water to wine
achan
nabal
lamhi
ashtaroth worship
to each his own

adding 20 cards

attending angel 1.00
cheribum (wa) 1.00
The Strong Angel (wa) 2.75
matthew(levi) 1.25
thomas 1.00
Authority of Christ .50
sons of thunder .25
striking herod 1.75
reach of desperation .50
the third seal .25
four drachma coin .75
the new covenant 2.00
king Rehoboam .50
king zedekiah .75
king manasseh 1.25
king Achish 1.25
lots wife 1.00
king amon (brown) .50
dungeon of malchiah .75
Gibeonite trickery (brown) .25

total $19.25

a new covenant or the strong angel could be switched out to bring the price down

The Guardian · « **Reply #15 on:** April 07, 2017, 05:30:12 PM »

Quote from: The Schaefer on April 07, 2017, 04:53:16 PM

here is my list for the I deck

take out 14 cards

angel at bethesda
gathering angel
legion of angels
Fishers of men
loaves and fishes
angelic news
miraculous catch
raising of lazarus
water to wine
achan
nabal
lamhi
ashtaroth worship
to each his own

adding 20 cards

attending angel 1.00
cheribum (wa) 1.00
The Strong Angel (wa) 2.75
matthew(levi) 1.25
thomas 1.00
Authority of Christ .50
sons of thunder .25
striking herod 1.75
reach of desperation .50
the third seal .25
four drachma coin .75
the new covenant 2.00
king Rehoboam .50
king zedekiah .75
king manasseh 1.25
king Achish 1.25
lots wife 1.00
king amon (brown) .50
dungeon of malchiah .75
Gibeonite trickery (brown) .25

total $19.25

a new covenant or the strong angel could be switched out to bring the price down

I like it.

The Schaefer · « **Reply #16 on:** April 07, 2017, 06:54:54 PM »

for the J deck it is a bit tricky to keep the cost below 20 since sandals is 5.

what i came up with though is

take out 8 cards

mocking soldiers
pilate's soldiers
possessing demon
quirinius
sorrow of mary
roman whip
persisent pestering
coliseum lions

add 14 cars

angel with a secret name 1.25
gideon(cow) 1.25
ehud .50
jair 1.00
moses (g) .50
Faith of gideon 1.50
words of encouragement .50
capturing canaan 1.00
emperor claudius 3.00
emperor nero 1.25
balaam .75
damsel with a spirit of divination 1.00
messenger of satan (orange) .75
elymas (bar-jesus) the sorcerer (ap) .50
begging for grain .25
expelling the jews .25
suicidal swine stampede 1.00
balaams disobedience 2.00
magic charms 2.00
boaz's sandals 5.00

total 25.25

the cost is high and i'd like to fit in balaam's teachings (roj) when it comes available but im not sure how much it would be. i'm not sure what i have defensively is the best option though.

The Guardian · « **Reply #17 on:** April 07, 2017, 07:03:41 PM »

I would cut Charms and Claudius, and add Terrifying Beast and a White negate like Burning Bush.

uthminister [BR] · « **Reply #18 on:** April 15, 2017, 02:46:58 PM »

I thought I would share what I put together based on your suggestions along with tweaks I had to make in order to not have any cards in the I/J Deckbuilder be in any of the other Deckbuilders (something I did not tell you all at the beginning in order to not stifle your input). I will be putting these together as one Deckbuilder (the first of it's kind) to sell alongside the I/J Deck for $15.00 (a $23.35 value) at the homeschool convention this coming weekend. Thanks so much for your help!

I Deck
Cherubim (WA) 1.00
Complainers .50
Foolish Advice .25
Gibeonite trickery (brown) .25
Gomer (TxP) 2.50
Reach of desperation $0.50
Servant Angel .10
Striking Herod $1.75
the new covenant 2.00
Wickedness of the Tenants .25

10 cards 10.10
5 evil 5 good

J Deck
Ambush the City $1.75
boaz's sandals 5.00
burning bush .25
Emperor Nero $1.25
Expelling the Jews $0.25
Fearfulness $0.75
messenger of satan (orange) .75
Tola $0.25
Terrifying Beast 3.00
Word of Encouragment (WA) $0.50

10 cards 13.25
5 evil 4 good 1 neutral

KEEBLERPOWELL · « **Reply #19 on:** April 21, 2017, 09:56:41 AM »

Will you also have copies of the I/J starter decks?

uthminister [BR] · « **Reply #20 on:** April 21, 2017, 10:32:56 PM »

We did, but we sold out today. I could probably sell you my sleeved copy.

Gabe · « **Reply #21 on:** April 21, 2017, 11:25:20 PM »

Quote from: uthminister [BR] on April 21, 2017, 10:32:56 PM

We did, but we sold out today. I could probably sell you my sleeved copy.

Praise God that he has exceeded your hopes and expectations! It's so great that so many new people are exposed to Redemption through that conference!!

kariusvega · « **Reply #22 on:** April 21, 2017, 11:33:17 PM »

Amen!!

Ironisaac · « **Reply #23 on:** April 22, 2017, 08:45:58 AM »

out of curiosity, how many did you bring with you?

Red · « **Reply #24 on:** April 23, 2017, 03:48:53 AM »

Quote from: Ironisaac on April 22, 2017, 08:45:58 AM

out of curiosity, how many did you bring with you?

We sold 25 I/J, at least 15 E/F, two G/H gift sets, and the special G/H gift set. So we sold between 40-50 starters alone. Several packs sold, a few starter upgrade packs and three deck builder packs.

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Author Topic: GOAL: Assemble a companion pack of cards to improve the I/J decks. (Read 4975 times)

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