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FoM Blue Part 3: Starting to Build (Decklist)

(Part 1: http://www.cactusforums.com/redemption-card-play/fom-blue-part-one-return-with-a-vengeance/)
(Part 2: http://www.cactusforums.com/redemption-card-play/fom-blue-part-2-keeping-the-good-times-rolling/)


Continuing on from Parts 1 and 2, I think it is time for a basic starting point decklist.  Here it is:


Good -38

Heroes - 14

Benjamin x3
Joseph x2
Rachel x2
Jacob (CoW) x1
Asher x1
Zebulun x1
Abram’s Army x2
Midianite’s Slave x2

Good Enhancements – 16

Book of Hosai x4
Answer to Prayer x2
Joseph Before Pharoah x4
Jacob Buries Foreign gods x2
Forgiveness of Joseph x1
Abraham’s Descendent x3

Covenants – 2

Covenant of Prayer x2

Good Fortresses – 2

Wall of Protection x1
Twelve Gates x1

Good Dominants – 4

Son of God x1
Second Coming x1
Angel of the Lord x1
Grapes of Wrath x1


Neutral - 29

Sites - 2

Ends of the Earth x1
Dragon Raid x1

Dual Alignment Dominants – 1

Three Woes x1

Dual Alignment Enhancements – 4

Deceit and Vengeance x2
Forbidden Fruit x2

Dual Alignment Characters – 1

King Abijam x1

Artifacts - 6

Magic Charms x1
Holy Grail x1
Heavenly Censer x1
Gifts of the Magi x2
Shrine to Artemis x1

Lost Souls – 14 + 2

Hopper x2

Prosperity x2
Imitate x2
Lawless x2
Thorns x2
Destruction x2
Dull x2
Humble x2


Evil - 38

Evil Characters - 14

King Zedekiah x3
King Manasseh x2
King Amon x2
King Jeroboam I x1
Medium in Endor x1
Prince of Persia x1
The Frog Demons x1
The Deceiver x1
Messenger of Satan x1
The Priest of Zeus x1


Evil Enhancements - 16

Dungeon of Malchiah x4
Gibeonite Trickery x4
Wickedness Abounds x3
The Wages of Sin (FoM) x1
Treasures of War (CoW) x1
Scattered x1
Fires of Abaddon x1
Great Mourning x1

Evil Fortresses - 2

Gates of Jerusalem x2

Evil City – 1

Babel x1

Evil Dominants - 5

Christian Martyr x1
Burial x1
Falling Away (W) x1
Destruction of Nehushtan x1
Shipwreck x1

Total - 105

RESERVE

Benjamin x1
Jacob Buries Foreign gods x1
Forgiveness of Joseph x1
Not Alone x1

Unified Language x1
Image of the Beast x1

King Zedekiah x1
Uzzah x1
Wickedness of Tenants x1
Fires of Abaddon x1

Clearly it still needs some tuning, but I think it has potential.

Some notes about this deck:

I ended up going 4 Book of Hosai and 2 Answer to Prayer.  My playgroup tends to run a lot of anti-search (Nazareth and Hezekiah’s Signet Ring), but if your area has less of that and more anti-draw it works to change these around a bit.

I wanted to fit in The Rainbow, but when thinking about what to take out for it, I always just ended up wanting whatever it would search for instead of The Rainbow itself.

Shrine to Artemis has a number uses, possibly the least of which is actually searching out The Priest of Zeus (though that is certainly nice).  It can be used to shuffle Abram’s Army back into deck so they can be searched out with Answer to Prayer in battle again.  It can be used to shuffle Benjamin or Zedekiah once they start gaining too much experience so you can play down a new 1/1 copy from your hand.  It can be used to get rid of converted non-genesis heroes so that Benjamin keeps his CBN.  It can be used to get rid of your opponent's cards placed on your characters or territory (like Abom).  And if you are unlucky enough to have one of your unique cards set aside, it can shuffle that back into your deck to free up new copies. 

The Wages of Sin seems like it will be extremely good.  In this deck (which isn’t even built around it) it can search out Shipwreck, Christian Martyr, Burial, DoN, Treasures of War, Wickedness of Tenants, Uzzah, King Zedekiah, King Manasseh, The Priest of Zeus, Deceit and Vengeance.  Possibly also Medium in Endor (implied discard)?  This is pretty much all of the ‘get rid of specific annoying cards’ cards, as well as some characters and battle winners.  So much versatility.

Messenger of Satan has good interactions with Abraham’s Descendant and Wages of Sin to get back what was just placed beneath.  Also good for getting the right toughness to have initiative to play Gibeonite Trickery as well as enough toughness to survive.


So what do you think of this as a starting point for Blue post FoM?  Do you have questions about why certain cards were included?  Or do you wonder why other cards didn’t make the cut?  Maybe even suggestions of things to improve?

Please ask or comment away, and I will do my best to explain.

I feel like Abraham, Faith of Abraham and Sarah should all be in here.

Abraham with Faith bands to sarah for the set aside and exchange to Rachel. Rachel swaps to Benjamin, you get CBN playfirst of CBN Genesis Enhancements and pseudo FBTN with that combo.

I think a copy of Judah could easily go in for one of abahams army.

Have you found a need for Asher? I find with him in t2 that if the games goes long enough I need him then we times out. Plus 2 Abe's Descendants reloads your Enhancements anyways.

I think Onedience of Noah should be in here times 2x particularly if you try out the Abraham combo.

If you want to try these suggestions I would try this (if you don't want to no sweat :-p)
Cut 12
1 Abraham's Army
1 Asher
1 Benjamin
1 Joseph before Pharoah
1 Answers to Prayer
2 Jacob Burries Foreign Gods
2 books of hosai
1 covenant of Prayer
1 wall of protection
1 12 Gates

Add 12
1 Abraham
1 Faith of Abraham
1 Sarah
1 Judah
1 Eve
1 Simeon (RoA)
2 Obedience of Noah
2 faith of Sarah
2 Faith of Issac

I believe the suggestions I mentioned will make you faster, give you more options for battle winners. (having a variety of ways to win battles in crucial in t2)

I also agree that Brown/Crimson Outsiders seems like a must. I think PoZ is a liability. I would also consider a copy of complainers.

I feel like Abraham, Faith of Abraham and Sarah should all be in here.

Abraham with Faith bands to sarah for the set aside and exchange to Rachel. Rachel swaps to Benjamin, you get CBN playfirst of CBN Genesis Enhancements and pseudo FBTN with that combo.

I think a copy of Judah could easily go in for one of abahams army.

Have you found a need for Asher? I find with him in t2 that if the games goes long enough I need him then we times out. Plus 2 Abe's Descendants reloads your Enhancements anyways.

I think Onedience of Noah should be in here times 2x particularly if you try out the Abraham combo.

If you want to try these suggestions I would try this (if you don't want to no sweat :-p)
Cut 12
1 Abraham's Army
1 Asher
1 Benjamin
1 Joseph before Pharoah
1 Answers to Prayer
2 Jacob Burries Foreign Gods
2 books of hosai
1 covenant of Prayer
1 wall of protection
1 12 Gates

Add 12
1 Abraham
1 Faith of Abraham
1 Sarah
1 Judah
1 Eve
1 Simeon (RoA)
2 Obedience of Noah
2 faith of Sarah
2 Faith of Issac

I believe the suggestions I mentioned will make you faster, give you more options for battle winners. (having a variety of ways to win battles in crucial in t2)

I also agree that Brown/Crimson Outsiders seems like a must. I think PoZ is a liability. I would also consider a copy of complainers.

Ok alot to go through here, which is great 

First of all, I do like the Abraham theme genesis quite a bit, stay tuned for part 4 to see a decklist more focused in that direction!

As for specific suggestions:

I like the suggestion to add Sarah a lot.  Sarah can get rid of those annoying female characters that Deceit and Vengeance cannot, and still through a chain add Benjamin or Joseph to battle, which is good.

I think I mostly agree about Asher, he is probably the hero to replace with Sarah.

I think I like Abram's Army x2 over Judah, so that I have more of a chance to still have one in deck for Answer to Prayer.

Obedience of Noah is definitely more for the Abraham list.  In this list if I have initiative to play it, any other battle winner is better so I just CBN get rid of my opponent's character instead of killing one of mine.

Simeon I don't like...you will probably never have initiative with him, and if you happen to get it everything he plays is interruptable.

I agree that PoZ might be not good enough.  Definitely was borderline, maybe should be in reserve instead...I'm not sure.

I also agree that having a variety of battle winners is important...though I thought I had that?

Jacob Buries Foreign gods (convert or discard demon)
Joseph Before Pharoah (capture or underdeck)
Forgiveness of Joseph (convert all)
Deceit and Vengeance (set aside THEN discard)
Abram's Army (discard) 

Solid list and excellent explanations! Thanks for making this resource available to the community!

It seems like there was a pseudo question. Medium exchanges to discard which is not a discard ability.