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I don't see the point of ANB. You're eating a Dom slot to give your opponent a +3 card advantage and a fair-play board wipe. Flood Survivors is a setup offense, so it's not like you're playing it with an edge to redrawing immediately over your opponent. Before it restarted the same phase it made sense to play after a failed rescue to hopefully try again and get a +3 to opening draw, but now you'd just be going straight back into battle with no territory setup and just whichever 8 cards you drew v. the same amount for your opponent. Anyone found a way to play this in a way that's worth a Dom slot (in T1) able to elucidate matters?

I've only used it twice in a t1 game and both times I played it in the battle phase and both times it netted me a soul. Other games its stayed in my hand because I didn't want to reset the board, specially in games where I was out running the opponent speed wise. I guess it's situational. 

Before the change, ANB was stupid good because of how fast Flood Survivors can set up. A change was definitely needed.

Now, to me anyway, it's one of those cards where I don't always need it, but the times I do need it, it can be clutch.

I recall a game I had with RDT a couple weeks back. He jumped out to a fast 3-0 lead (having not played SoG but playing TSC for a second AotL). I played ANB during a losing battle and started a new battle phase. While he had a block for that one, on my next turn I got everything set up (Ark, Noah band, etc) and came back to narrowly lose 5-4, which included a bad misplay on my part that might have cost me a chance to win.

That being said, I think the more effective play going forward will be to use it during one's draw phase so you can get the reset then a full turn with +3 card advantage.

Shem+Cup of Wrath+Wrath of Stan+ANB = 

Sounds like it can be fun with a deck discard defense

There are multiple decks in the meta that are faster than Flood Survivors. If FS falls behind, because FS sets up so quickly, ANB can be the perfect card to get you back into the game.

It's pretty much pointless after the nerf.

I heard this a lot after Mayhem's last errata

Quote from: Josh on June 28, 2018, 03:09:08 PM

Quote from: Red Wing on June 28, 2018, 02:48:39 PM

It's pretty much pointless after the nerf.

I heard this a lot after Mayhem's last errata

Ok, but I don't think Mayhem and ANB are at all comparable. Mayhem is no longer the best dom in the game, but it can still be used for the same purposes (speed/soul generation/Wives block). It's definitely still playable. ANB on the other hand went from a really powerful support card for a niche theme to being a contingency plan in case you get behind or a way to recycle enhancements. Not even close in my mind.

Wait? Mayhem isn't the best dom in the game anymore? I must have missed a memo

It never was the best dom in the game  (looking at you SoG)

True story, since Mayhem was released the number of T1-2P Nationals winning decks that didn't play Son of God is equal to the number that didn't play Mayhem


*not actually true, 2 decks didn't play Mayhem
**In fact, I'm fairly certain (Though I didn't check) That there isn't a single nationals T12P winning deck that didn't play Angel of the Lord

For the lulz, obviously.

Quote from: Red Wing on June 28, 2018, 02:48:39 PM

It's pretty much pointless after the nerf.

I'll be honest, it definitely felt like that at first after playing 15-ish games prior to the nerf (going 15-0 and only one of those games was 5-4). However, I think it's definitely more strategic now. Before it was always "wait until you lose a battle then play it for Long Day effect." Now there's multiple points during your turn where it might be most advantageous to play it.

Another thing to remember is that if you have Pitch and Gopher Wood and get the right timing, you can also release Flood Survivors from the Ark a turn early, which gives you +2 card advantage per FS released (the Hero plus the draw or recursion).

Um... how does Pitch & Gopher Wood do that? It doesn’t protect from ANB if you play it unless it got an errata to make it protect from all Shuffle abilities...

Yes, but it only protects from shuffle abilities on Opponent’s cards not your’s.

Ah right. I misread it.