Author Topic: Falling Away or Guardian? (Read 40325 times)

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #25 on:** August 15, 2008, 04:18:43 PM »

Quote from: TimMierz on August 15, 2008, 04:03:34 PM

Why wouldn't those be permanent inhabitants of the temple?

Quote from: BubbleMan on August 15, 2008, 04:02:03 PM

Ark of the Covenant, Lampstand of the Sanctuary, Tables of the Law; how is AP any different?

TimMierz · « **Reply #26 on:** August 15, 2008, 04:20:46 PM »

Read some of the books covering that time period. Some wicked kings would set up false idols/altars like the Asherah Pole or the Altar of Ahaz, but they were not something found on a normal basis in the temple, nor were they what God prescribed to be in the temple.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #27 on:** August 15, 2008, 04:21:24 PM »

Asherah Pole was not supposed to be there and was taken out. If you do your homework, the other were supposed to be there and not supposed to be taken out. They were only taken after the Babs invaded and pwned up the temple.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #28 on:** August 15, 2008, 04:25:46 PM »

Maybe they were meant to be there, but they weren't "permanent fixtures."

DaClock · « **Reply #29 on:** August 15, 2008, 04:27:12 PM »

Quote from: TimMierz on August 15, 2008, 04:18:21 PM

What's the difference between getting to play a useless card and not getting to play a card? I can only think of two things: Presented before the Lord and the Speed Bump LS. Sometimes it can be beneficial to hold useless cards in your hand, like against Simeon or other hand discarders.

GoyS is also useful post-FA if your opponent is using Confusion of Mind.

TimMierz · « **Reply #30 on:** August 15, 2008, 04:27:52 PM »

They were consistently placed in the temple during the time of the temple's use. The idols/altars, as well as articles of clothing (which were in and out due to the people wearing them being in and out) like Blue Tassels were not. That is the difference.

TimMierz · « **Reply #31 on:** August 15, 2008, 04:28:21 PM »

Quote from: DaClock on August 15, 2008, 04:27:12 PM

GoyS is also useful post-FA if your opponent is using Confusion of Mind.

I agree with that, but you were saying that you like to be able to play the card. That is all.

TheHobbit13 · « **Reply #32 on:** August 15, 2008, 04:28:50 PM »

Guardian all the way.

RedemptionAggie · « **Reply #33 on:** August 15, 2008, 04:30:30 PM »

Quote from: BubbleMan on August 15, 2008, 04:25:46 PM

Maybe they were meant to be there, but they weren't "permanent fixtures."

That's why "permanent" was in quotes. I didn't have a better term at the time.

Alex-CB · « **Reply #34 on:** August 15, 2008, 04:31:02 PM »

Personally I don't like either. Whichever one I have in my deck, my opponent pulls out the other before I get mine.. But I would go with Guardian.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #35 on:** August 15, 2008, 04:37:40 PM »

Quote from: RedemptionAggie on August 15, 2008, 04:30:30 PM

Quote from: BubbleMan on August 15, 2008, 04:25:46 PM
Maybe they were meant to be there, but they weren't "permanent fixtures."

That's why "permanent" was in quotes. I didn't have a better term at the time.

I'm just saying that evil temple artifacts are still temple artifacts, whether or not they're supposed to be there.

redemption99 · « **Reply #36 on:** August 15, 2008, 04:37:42 PM »

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #37 on:** August 15, 2008, 04:41:30 PM »

Quote from: BubbleMan on August 15, 2008, 04:37:40 PM

Quote from: RedemptionAggie on August 15, 2008, 04:30:30 PM
Quote from: BubbleMan on August 15, 2008, 04:25:46 PM
Maybe they were meant to be there, but they weren't "permanent fixtures."

That's why "permanent" was in quotes. I didn't have a better term at the time.
I'm just saying that evil temple artifacts are still temple artifacts, whether or not they're supposed to be there.

Well, your just wrong. Beleive me, most of us have had your argument before, so we are just saying what we have been told. But you can't say the position of the current Redemption rules is in fallacy in any way. Rob and others just had to make a decision about it, and this is what they came up with. There is absolutely no repurcussions to it as far as the legitamacy of the game, so, we shouldn't get hung up on it.

Hedgehogman · « **Reply #38 on:** August 15, 2008, 04:52:26 PM »

I did not realize Temple Veil was reclassified as a Temple art. That's a rather important change that was made with no fanfare whatsoever... when did that change take place??

Now all we need to do is get Blue Tassels and Priestly Crown back into the Temple somehow...

TimMierz · « **Reply #39 on:** August 15, 2008, 04:53:57 PM »

Quote from: Hedgehogman on August 15, 2008, 04:52:26 PM

I did not realize Temple Veil was reclassified as a Temple art. That's a rather important change that was made with no fanfare whatsoever... when did that change take place??

Quite a while ago. It was probably mid-2006, when Asherah Pole and others were removed from the list.

TimMierz · « **Reply #40 on:** August 15, 2008, 04:55:27 PM »

Thinking a little more about it, I might see a little more of what Ben was saying. Falling Away could potentially clog up your hand if he isn't rescuing anything, whereas Guardian is playable at any time and will not clog it up.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #41 on:** August 15, 2008, 05:01:47 PM »

Quote from: Timeout King: Janissary on August 15, 2008, 04:41:30 PM

Well, your just wrong. Beleive me, most of us have had your argument before, so we are just saying what we have been told. But you can't say the position of the current Redemption rules is in fallacy in any way. Rob and others just had to make a decision about it, and this is what they came up with. There is absolutely no repurcussions to it as far as the legitamacy of the game, so, we shouldn't get hung up on it.

Look, I already know that I'm wrong, okay? Obviously I am; I'm saying that don't agree with the rules.

Quote from: BubbleMan on August 15, 2008, 04:37:40 PM

I'm just saying that evil temple artifacts are still temple artifacts, whether or not they're supposed to be there.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #42 on:** August 15, 2008, 05:08:18 PM »

Quote from: BubbleMan on August 15, 2008, 05:01:47 PM

Quote from: Timeout King: Janissary on August 15, 2008, 04:41:30 PM
Well, your just wrong. Beleive me, most of us have had your argument before, so we are just saying what we have been told. But you can't say the position of the current Redemption rules is in fallacy in any way. Rob and others just had to make a decision about it, and this is what they came up with. There is absolutely no repurcussions to it as far as the legitamacy of the game, so, we shouldn't get hung up on it.
Look, I already know that I'm wrong, okay? Obviously I am; I'm saying that don't agree with the rules.
Quote from: BubbleMan on August 15, 2008, 04:37:40 PM
I'm just saying that evil temple artifacts are still temple artifacts, whether or not they're supposed to be there.

Wow, you seem to find away to miss the parts where I say "Most of us have had this argument before", which would imply "most of us" probably agree at least partially with you, seeing as we have argued about it.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #43 on:** August 15, 2008, 05:09:34 PM »

So, what's the point you're trying to make?

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #44 on:** August 15, 2008, 11:21:30 PM »

That there is no point to just repeating the same sentence over and over again.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #45 on:** August 15, 2008, 11:51:50 PM »

Quote from: Colin Michael on August 10, 2008, 01:30:33 PM

This thread is provocative.

Claude · « **Reply #46 on:** August 16, 2008, 02:40:12 AM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on August 15, 2008, 11:51:50 PM

Quote from: Colin Michael on August 10, 2008, 01:30:33 PM
This thread is provocative.

Hmm... that's my quotation. Dont borrow it. Thankyou

Find your own

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #47 on:** August 16, 2008, 08:48:09 AM »

You applauded the other guy.... but I just get a slap on the wrist.....

Lozo777 · « **Reply #48 on:** August 16, 2008, 08:49:10 AM »

He just likes me more then you.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #49 on:** August 16, 2008, 08:57:59 AM »

But..... My post count is higher then yours... that should mean people love me and think im cooler.

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