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Quote from: Xonathan on April 16, 2018, 03:00:18 PM

I know the winning trend (usually) is to keep your deck at 50 cards, but with all the new doms and even powerful souls its pretty tempting to go to 57 cards. Do you think a 57 card deck could compete with a 50 card deck? If so, what would you consider to make the deck fast or have a good early game set up?

Without a doubt. I'm fairly confident that a 57 card blue genesis deck with the Abraham/Angel at Shur search engine combined with lot and midianite's slave can out rush a ton of 50 card decks, especially if you are running a normal speed or fast defense defense. you can't run a slow defense with this, that's for sure, but defense that has 2-3 draw/search cards should be able to hold up that end just fine.

Quote from: SEB on April 25, 2018, 09:10:00 AM

If you did not draw a single card beyond your three at draw phase, a 57 card deck would add 2 additional draw steps for you (12 Draws in a 50 and 14 draws in a 57). So, is an extra dominant and an extra LS worth slowing your deck down by 2 draws?
   
Turn        Remaining Cards (Because LS replace their draws, i deducted that from the decks)
Opening   35   41
1           32   38
2           29   35
3           26   32
4           23   29
5           20   26
6           17   23
7           14   20
8           11   17
9           8   14
10           5   11
11           2   8
12           0   5
13           0   2
14           0   0

That's why you only play with 57 if you have a really fast deck, like the Abraham search engine, or a throne offense. The only other reason to play with 57 isn't really viable any more, which is super slow decks that defend by keeping souls off the table. One of my friends has a deck like that that he has been playing for the last two years, but he'll have to change that soon with all the soul gen that has come out recently, and the fact that the liners were banned.

Quote from: Ironisaac on April 25, 2018, 09:50:29 AM

Quote from: SEB on April 25, 2018, 09:10:00 AM

If you did not draw a single card beyond your three at draw phase, a 57 card deck would add 2 additional draw steps for you (12 Draws in a 50 and 14 draws in a 57). So, is an extra dominant and an extra LS worth slowing your deck down by 2 draws?
   
Turn        Remaining Cards (Because LS replace their draws, i deducted that from the decks)
Opening   35   41
1           32   38
2           29   35
3           26   32
4           23   29
5           20   26
6           17   23
7           14   20
8           11   17
9           8   14
10           5   11
11           2   8
12           0   5
13           0   2
14           0   0

That's why you only play with 57 if you have a really fast deck, like the Abraham search engine, or a throne offense. The only other reason to play with 57 isn't really viable any more, which is super slow decks that defend by keeping souls off the table. One of my friends has a deck like that that he has been playing for the last two years, but he'll have to change that soon with all the soul gen that has come out recently, and the fact that the liners were banned.

What is the Abraham search engine?

Abraham searches and bands to Lot, withdraw either of them for a D2.

Next turn Abraham searches one of his other targets (Isaac, Sarah, Melchizedek, Harbingers, Angel at Shur) but still bands to Lot for the D2.

Yeah, definitely a couple ways to use it.

I like using the Lot method as he's CBI, and that way I'm (hopefully) getting offense and defense out of my deck at a more balanced rate.

Why go for Heroes when I'm going to be attacking with Abraham every turn anyway...