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Title: Type 2 deck
Post by: Mr.Hiatus on June 27, 2010, 04:24:48 PM

105 38/38/29

14 ls

3 Unholy Writ
3 Water Jar
1 Three Nails
8 Silver Sites

Captain of the Host (kings) x2
Benjamin
Jacob (foof) x3
Mary the Mother of James x2
Salome x2
The Woman at the Well
Martha
The Thankful Leper x2
Good Samaritan x2
Israelite Archer x4

He Is Risen x3
Meeting the Messiah x4
Jacob's Dream x2
Reuben's Torn Clothes x5

The Garden Tomb

SoG
NJ
AotL

The Winged Leopard
Antiochus
Greek Philosophers x2
Fallen Warrior (kings) x2
The 12 Fingered Giant x2
Philistine Garrison x3
Philistine Armor Bearer x5

Abomination x2
Devourer (kings) x2
Bringing Fear x2
Foolish Advice x2
Land Dispute x3
Joseph in Prison x3

Captured Ark x1

High Places
Philistine Outpost x2

Mayhem
DoN
Burial
CM

Title: Re: Type 2 deck
Post by: Warrior_Monk on June 27, 2010, 05:18:03 PM

I think the defense is a tad weak. offense looks good.

Title: Re: Type 2 deck
Post by: Mr.Hiatus on June 27, 2010, 06:13:20 PM

How does the defense look weak?

Title: Re: Type 2 deck
Post by: adotson85 on June 28, 2010, 12:45:02 AM

Quote from: Ring Wraith on June 27, 2010, 05:18:03 PM

I think the defense is a tad weak. offense looks good.

The defense is not as week as you think. I had the pleasure to play against this deck and found the defense to work well. The Phillys can be hard to get around and they hold you off while he sets up his sites. I had a very similar offense to his and was unable to rescue souls until late in the game. Site access is hard to keep as he is able to kill off your access sites with land dispute and take them with Jacob's Dream.

Title: Re: Type 2 deck
Post by: RTSmaniac on June 28, 2010, 01:14:38 AM

needs zaccheus

Title: Re: Type 2 deck
Post by: TheJaylor on July 13, 2010, 04:34:21 PM

a couple more sites would work well because after you set up your sites adn you draw more souls the defense i wouldn't think would be strong enough against a couple Phineas's and zeals or other cbn enhancements.

Title: Re: Type 2 deck
Post by: Mr.Hiatus on July 13, 2010, 10:38:34 PM

Yeah but they have 5 Zeal's and 2-3 Phineas, I will block with a low guy play a btn enh, and Writ him. If they keep coming at me with him and I can't Abomb him or Writ him, then I will use dominates on him. After that teal doesn't bother me. But they have to use all their Zeal's on Joshua and Phineas, any else and I will waste them. Plus they have to have access on top. So yeah some CBN battle winners will hurt my defense, but what defense does a CBN battle winner not work against? 8 sites in a 105 card deck is very nice, especially when you have a strong offense with so many options. Also the Water Jars always work.  ;)

Title: Re: Type 2 deck
Post by: TheJaylor on July 13, 2010, 10:42:53 PM

I won a T1 multi game at State because of my opponents water jar but that is T1 not T2

Title: Re: Type 2 deck
Post by: Warrior_Monk on July 13, 2010, 10:55:55 PM

the defense is weak because it uses 3 battle winners and a bunch of negates (and abom, which in T2 is iffy, considering people now need to put in ways to get rid of Destructive Sin and IoJ anyway.) I seldom see negates work except against green. from my experience, most people play mainly CBN enhancements or pre-block for offense.

also, I played an offense similar to this at the T2 only tournament. it worked extremely well against everybody except a great player who used demons (in minnesota, of all places...) 1 Three nails is easily taken care of...

Title: Re: Type 2 deck
Post by: Mr.Hiatus on July 14, 2010, 01:09:51 AM

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the defense is weak because it uses 3 battle winners and a bunch of negates

lol.
Today's meta game is not all about CBN. Think about it. Yeah there is Zeal/Phineas, and AoCp, but those have always been around. Today you see a lot of pre block ignore with nothing really in there hand to back it up, and you see "He Is Risen", which is negateable. All of green is negated, gold, blue, and white. The only CBN battle winner is Zeal on the right guy and AoCp. For that I will use Writ/Dominants for his 5 CBN battle winners, then I will negate the rest of his offense. Also this does a great job of locking out people.
Yes this offense has trouble with demons. You have to pre-block ignore and set aside their cbn bander's then attack with a Captain band. The solo Three Nails is for late game strategy when they think I do not have one, and they have put down their 7 Sons. Then I convert them, discard another card due to A-bomb, then 3 Nails and Capn band. I played against a strong demon defense and won in the late game, so I know it can be done.

Title: Re: Type 2 deck
Post by: Warrior_Monk on July 14, 2010, 09:21:02 AM

Zeal can also be played on Joshua. in my previous teal deck, I used 3 of both heroes. gold? people play gold in T2? blue is pretty much all preblock. so, white and green are the only advantages I see.

Title: Re: Type 2 deck
Post by: that one kid on July 14, 2010, 09:26:35 AM

Needs a Wrath.

Title: Re: Type 2 deck
Post by: hi123 on July 14, 2010, 11:25:15 AM

Quote from: that one kid on July 14, 2010, 09:26:35 AM

Needs a Wrath.

he has 20 hero's. And multiples of his most important heros. So, I agree, +1 he should have a WOS.

Title: Re: Type 2 deck
Post by: Warrior_Monk on July 14, 2010, 11:42:59 AM

Wrath is weak.

Title: Re: Type 2 deck
Post by: hi123 on July 14, 2010, 04:07:08 PM

Quote from: Ring Wraith on July 14, 2010, 11:42:59 AM

Wrath is weak.

Ummmmm I dis-agree!

Spoiler (hover to show)

that is the most awesome black brigade cards!!!....I once made a deck called "no hero for you!" It was multi-defense. And, that was a card that really helped!...Along with great image, and hamans plot!

Title: Re: Type 2 deck
Post by: Warrior_Monk on July 14, 2010, 04:21:39 PM

A. Wrath is weak.
B. Why did you use a spoiler just to say you made a character destruction deck? it's not a big secret that those decks exist.
C. Wrath is weak.
D. it's unlikely he'll get initiative, outside of Fallen Warrior (which I'm really not sure why that's in there...)
E. Wrath is weak.
F. Black is weak.
G. Wrath is weak.
H. Wrath is interruptable
aaaaaaand


I. Raven smells like tacos.

Title: Re: Type 2 deck
Post by: Mr.Hiatus on July 14, 2010, 10:18:39 PM

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gold? people play gold in T2?

Water Jar... Meeting the Messiah... A-Bomb... Gold is a very popular splash in type 2 this year.

Title: Re: Type 2 deck
Post by: Warrior_Monk on July 14, 2010, 11:39:04 PM

Quote from: Mr.Hiatus on July 14, 2010, 10:18:39 PM

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gold? people play gold in T2?

Water Jar... Meeting the Messiah... A-Bomb... Gold is a very popular splash in type 2 this year.

splash, yes. but how many enhancements will they play in battle? 0.

Title: Re: Type 2 deck
Post by: Mr.Hiatus on July 15, 2010, 09:28:19 PM

However many are in their deck... which are all negateable, unless they do Meeting the Messiah as a TC.

Title: Re: Type 2 deck
Post by: Warrior_Monk on July 15, 2010, 09:47:16 PM

Quote from: Mr.Hiatus on July 15, 2010, 09:28:19 PM

However many are in their deck... which are all negateable, unless they do Meeting the Messiah as a TC.

I'm pretty sure that's the only gold enhancement I've seen played in T2 all year. and it was only played as a TC (except for maybe once, and I was the one using it...). granted, there's few T2 players in my playgroup (6ish), but I was also at the T2 only, and none were played there that I saw.

Title: Re: Type 2 deck
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on July 15, 2010, 09:49:54 PM

I've played mono-gold against you, but it was characterless so you probably didn't notice.