Author Topic: My Nats Deck: Final Editing (Read 10093 times)

Cameron the Conqueror · « **on:** July 11, 2009, 12:28:27 AM »

I know I have posted this deck quite a few times, but I'm interested in anyone has any final comments/suggests on it. Thanks in advance for any input.

Cards in deck: 50
Lost Souls: 8
   Lost Soul (1st round)
   Lost Soul (Female Only)
   Lost Soul (hopper)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Soul (shuffler)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)
   Lost Souls (2-line)

Lamb Dominants: 5
   Angel of the Lord
   Guardian Of Your Souls
   Harvest Time
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 4
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away

Fortresses: 1
   Zerubbabel's Temple

Multi-Color Sites: 2
   Promised Land
   New Jerusalem (site)

Artifacts: 6
   Burial Shroud
   Holy of Holies
   Lampstand of the Sanctuary
   Unholy Writ
   Covenant with Phinehas (Teal)
   Covenant with Levi (Teal)

Teal Heroes: 5
   Ezra (Teal)
   Joiada, Son of Eliashib (Teal)
   Joshua the High Priest (Teal)
   Phinehas, son of Eleazar (Teal)
   Priests of Christ (Teal)

Multi Heroes: 1
   Melchizedek (purple/teal)

Purple Heroes: 1
   Ethiopian Treasurer

Teal Hero Enhancements: 6
   Burning Incense (Teal)
   Filling Zerubbabel's Temple (Teal)
   Holy unto the Lord (Teal)
   Jehoiada's Strength (Teal)
   Trumpet Blast (Teal)
   Zeal for the Lord (Teal)

Purple Hero Enhancements: 3
   Authority of Christ
   Reach of Desperation
   Unified Kingdom

Multi Hero Enhancements: 2
   Pentecost
   First Fruits

Gray Evil Characters: 1
   Sabbath Breaker

Brown Evil Characters: 2
   Uzzah
   A Slave

Orange Evil Characters: 2
   King of Tyrus
   Trembling Demon

Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 1
   Torment

Isildur · « **Reply #1 on:** July 11, 2009, 12:41:43 AM »

Me no like the number 52 I would say add 4 cards or take out 2

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #2 on:** July 11, 2009, 12:45:16 AM »

I'm struggling to do either. If I go to 56, I think Hur and Gifts would be an interesting add. I also want to add Falling Away.

If I go 50, what would you take out?

Gabe · « **Reply #3 on:** July 11, 2009, 02:20:22 AM »

I would take out:

3 Multi-Color Sites
1 Teal Enhancement (Burning Incense, Filling Zerubbabel's Temple, Jehoiada's Strength)
1 Purple Enhancement (Royal Parade, Unified Kingdom)
Torment

Add:
Priestly Crown
Covenant with Levi
Falling Away
Prince of this World

That leaves you at 50 cards. Perfect!

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #4 on:** July 11, 2009, 10:12:11 AM »

Type 1 2 player or Multi?

If its Multi you can for sure drop the sites, or at least two of them, Like Gabe said,

If its for 2 player I would keep two of those, maybe all 3 and drop 2 of the battle winners.

Additionally for Multi Burial Shroud = Bad idea... All it does is make it so you can't make a rescue that turn. Drop it if its multi.

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #5 on:** July 11, 2009, 10:32:14 AM »

oops, forgot to mention it is a T1 2player deck.

I like the idea of dropping Royal Parade, since it only works on 2/3 of my purple guys. Since I would only have 2 purple combos, maybe switch Hiram for Haggai?

I might drop one site, but I don't understand how artifacts are better than sites. An artifact can be killed with DoN or many different enhancements, while sites are much harder to kill. Maybe switch one of the 2-use sites for one of the arts?

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #6 on:** July 11, 2009, 10:50:02 AM »

Sites are much easier to kill IMHO. I play site-lock almost exclusively and If you're playing with 2 site-access artifacts, especially underneath lampstands I'm going to be hard pressed to get rid of both of them.

Gabe · « **Reply #7 on:** July 11, 2009, 10:51:59 AM »

Quote from: Cameron the Conqueror on July 11, 2009, 10:32:14 AM

I might drop one site, but I don't understand how artifacts are better than sites. An artifact can be killed with DoN or many different enhancements, while sites are much harder to kill. Maybe switch one of the 2-use sites for one of the arts?

If you're playing against a true site lock deck they'll have plenty of ways to steal/discard your sites. How can you protect them? They can clog up your hand until you're ready to use them. If you set them down they're vulnerable.

On the other hand, most site lock decks aren't prepared to deal with more than one access artifact. You can hide them in your artifact pile until you're ready to use use them, then protect them from DoN with Lampstand. They might have LuG but I seriously doubt they'll have a way to get rid of both.

Against a non-site deck you can feed Priestly Crown to Uzzah and Cov w/Levi to First Fruits. On the other hand you can use one access site for Trumpet Blast but the other two have no use.

On a different note, I'd swap BS for U&T.

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #8 on:** July 11, 2009, 10:54:08 AM »

I am convinced. I'll switch two of the sites to arts. Which site would you keep, DR or PL?

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #9 on:** July 11, 2009, 10:57:30 AM »

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On the other hand, most site lock decks aren't prepared to deal with more than one access artifact. You can hide them in your artifact pile until you're ready to use use them, then protect them from DoN with Lampstand. They might have LuG but I seriously doubt they'll have a way to get rid of both.

Actually... In my current deck not counting DoN I have the capabilities to discard 4 artifacts, But I've never had to discard more than 3

For sure keep Promised Land, with Pergamum floating around I don't really want to risk D-raid anymore.

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #10 on:** July 11, 2009, 11:07:25 AM »

ok, I edited the site access. Now, how to get to 50...........

Royal Parade is probably my weakest enhancement. It only works on 2/3 Purple heroes, and I don't use it often. Maybe take out Royal Parade and Hiram? I wish I could remove some arts, but I really need them all imo.

Any more suggestions?

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #11 on:** July 11, 2009, 11:21:23 AM »

I would look at taking out Hormah. Yes its a great card, but you only have 3 Humans, and Hormah isn't always a block, most of the time you'll have 3 other souls for me, and because its sudo-speed you'll be decked out and have that soul back for me again.

The Guardian · « **Reply #12 on:** July 11, 2009, 01:55:06 PM »

...but if you do keep Hormah, add the Site Doubler so you have a chance to put 2 LS beneath your deck.

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #13 on:** July 11, 2009, 04:14:41 PM »

well, if I take out:

Hiram
Royal Parade
Hormah

I want to add:

Falling Away
a teal hero + enhancement (Joiakim & Jordan Int)

What do you all think?

lightningninja · « **Reply #14 on:** July 11, 2009, 04:30:16 PM »

Yes, take those out but just put in falling away. And you're good with 50 cards.

What is the record of the versions of this deck, btw? Cause most times you'll only win about 65% of the time. Against speed, it's just who is gonna draw first. And against a fbtn banding, with just one destruction, you can never really block. Maybe 12 giant? He's a great standalone.

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #15 on:** July 11, 2009, 04:42:49 PM »

This deck is around 80-7. I have had a lot of success with it, adding together many different versions of this deck of course. This exact version is about 3-0.

I think I'll go with adding FA and staying at 50.

lightningninja · « **Reply #16 on:** July 11, 2009, 04:44:37 PM »

Wow... well then that's pretty awesome.

I take that back. I guess this deck will do fine, I'd still take out those three and put in falling away though.

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #17 on:** July 11, 2009, 04:56:30 PM »

Deck Updated. Any other ideas?

Took out:
Hormah
Hiram
Royal Parade

Added:
FA

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #18 on:** July 11, 2009, 05:09:31 PM »

I'm honestly not really sure what Unified Kingdom is doing in there. Sure its an interrupt for purple, but all you're going to end up doing is banding in a bunch of other hero's to get killed. I would either put in a Captain or cut UK.

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #19 on:** July 13, 2009, 01:47:45 PM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on July 11, 2009, 05:09:31 PM

I'm honestly not really sure what Unified Kingdom is doing in there. Sure its an interrupt for purple, but all you're going to end up doing is banding in a bunch of other hero's to get killed. I would either put in a Captain or cut UK.

If I had one, I would. Banding creates a huge offense of heroes that cannot be harmed. It also works well in a pinch to use opponent's heroes (hehe TGT).

After playing a few times with the new deck, I switched to 1 artifact and 2 sites for site access. While 2 arts, 1 site is probably harder to stop, I don't want to fill my artifact pile. Thanks for the input, and keep it coming if you have ideas.

Cameron

Gabe · « **Reply #20 on:** July 13, 2009, 02:01:04 PM »

Quote from: Cameron the Conqueror on July 13, 2009, 01:47:45 PM

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on July 11, 2009, 05:09:31 PM
I'm honestly not really sure what Unified Kingdom is doing in there. Sure its an interrupt for purple, but all you're going to end up doing is banding in a bunch of other hero's to get killed. I would either put in a Captain or cut UK.
If I had one, I would. Banding creates a huge offense of heroes that cannot be harmed. It also works well in a pinch to use opponent's heroes (hehe TGT).

You guys are crazy.

UK only interrupts WoP so it hardly qualifies as an interrupt for most practical purposes. It also cannot band to CotH or any TGT Hero...

On the other hand it is rather nice to play first with ET and bring in your O.T. Humans, which includes a number of hard to beat Z's Temple guys.

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #21 on:** July 13, 2009, 02:03:00 PM »

oops, forgot it said OT.....

And I have always been playing UK wrong. I thought it always said ITB....... wow, scary.

If I did add Captain, what should I take out?

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On the other hand it is rather nice to play first with ET and bring in your O.T. Humans, which includes a number of hard to beat Z's Temple guys. Grin

Exactly

Gabe · « **Reply #22 on:** July 13, 2009, 02:14:20 PM »

Quote from: Cameron the Conqueror on July 13, 2009, 02:03:00 PM

oops, forgot it said OT.....

And I have always been playing UK wrong. I thought it always said ITB....... wow, scary.

No wonder your deck is like 80-7!

Quote from: Cameron the Conqueror on July 13, 2009, 02:03:00 PM

If I did add Captain, what should I take out?

What's the point of adding Captain? You don't have any way to band to him in the deck. If you just want a FBTN angel, TSA would be better.

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #23 on:** July 13, 2009, 02:15:32 PM »

Remind me again how banding in a FTBN guy works if he negates his own banding............. I never learned.

lightningninja · « **Reply #24 on:** July 13, 2009, 02:18:26 PM »

It's a fbtn battle, but he returns to territory.

Interesting though... I always thought that if you negate banding, you indirrectly negate character abilities that were banded in. But the rule for a fbtn character being banded in seems to contradict that....

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Author Topic: My Nats Deck: Final Editing (Read 10093 times)