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Re: The Fall of Man - Cards and Info
« Reply #175 on: April 20, 2018, 03:22:12 PM »
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I'm bad at math's, I'm sure you're right

Like the time you used a deck without a card that achieved 20% of the win condition?  ::)
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« Reply #176 on: April 21, 2018, 08:03:36 AM »
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I'm bad at math's, I'm sure you're right

Like the time you used a deck without a card that achieved 20% of the win condition?  ::)

Son of God Legacy Rare?  That’s cool...

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« Reply #177 on: April 21, 2018, 08:05:20 AM »
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For real though...With all of the idols in this set, I’m calling Asherah Pole as a LR.

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Re: The Fall of Man - Cards and Info
« Reply #178 on: April 21, 2018, 08:49:18 AM »
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My vote is for household idols, it's good how it is and it's wording could use a reprint

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Re: The Fall of Man - Cards and Info
« Reply #179 on: April 21, 2018, 09:22:56 AM »
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Has a final decision on the FoM booster card mix already been made? If you could share it that would be appreciated! I would like to know what to expect ^^'

The Fall of Man set is 147 cards plus 18 Legacy Rare cards
3 Ultra Rare
36 Rare
108 commons
18 Legacy Rare


Each card pack will contain
4 commons
1 rare or legacy rare or ultra rare

The approximate card mix for remaining 10 cards will be
1 Thesaurus
2 Disciples
3 or 4 Patriarchs
3 or 4 Kings

Each Display box will contain one ultra rare in one of the 24 card packs. New packaging is in production. I don't know that it will be here for the initial release which means we will sticker old TeP boxes until new packaging arrives.

This set has been extra hard to develop and finish.  There have been disagreements and I have personally reversed my decisions on at least three issues.  I have considered an issue settled and then Our Lord has shown me it is not settled. I want the fans here to know that I listen, consider, pray and then make a call, consider more, pray more, ... lather, rinse, repeat.  The elders have soldiered through.  By God's grace, we are almost finished. 

We may be able to send cards to the printer these week.  That means we are at least five weeks out from being able to fill orders.

Your prayers for us as we finish the project are most welcome. 
« Last Edit: April 21, 2018, 12:55:25 PM by CactusRob »
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Re: The Fall of Man - Cards and Info
« Reply #180 on: April 21, 2018, 10:12:24 AM »
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Thank you for the information, Rob. We are grateful for your and the elders' work on the exciting new set!

I have a question - are the legacy rares part of the 147 total FoM cards? in your breakdown you listed the 18 legacy rares as part of the total, but they've been presented as separate/extra, as there were 147 FoM cards previewed without including them.

Thanks again!!
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Re: The Fall of Man - Cards and Info
« Reply #181 on: April 21, 2018, 10:23:22 AM »
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I believe that was a typo, there are 108 commons as the Legacy Rares are not a part of the 147 card set.
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« Reply #182 on: April 21, 2018, 10:26:19 AM »
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I believe that was a typo, there are 108 commons as the Legacy Rares are not a part of the 147 card set.

Thanks for the clarification there. :) 

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Re: The Fall of Man - Cards and Info
« Reply #183 on: April 21, 2018, 12:56:06 PM »
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I believe that was a typo, there are 108 commons as the Legacy Rares are not a part of the 147 card set.

Fixed.  Thank you.
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« Reply #184 on: April 21, 2018, 02:03:30 PM »
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More patriarchs and king extras.... :o. Not that we dont have enough of those.  ;D

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« Reply #185 on: April 21, 2018, 02:53:22 PM »
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One other thought....the mayhem (if in a pack) will it be the old or updated version? 

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Re: The Fall of Man - Cards and Info
« Reply #186 on: April 21, 2018, 05:10:25 PM »
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Thanks Rob!
Great work!

The approximate card mix for remaining 10 cards will be
1 Thesaurus
2 Disciples
3 or 4 Patriarchs
3 or 4 Kings
Have you already decided on the rarities of those?

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Re: The Fall of Man - Cards and Info
« Reply #187 on: April 21, 2018, 06:50:25 PM »
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Share your favorite things from the set, post deck ideas and combos you want to try, and encourage positive discussion about this awesome new set coming out. It may not work but it’ll make the guys who work real hard on this set feel appreciated and encouraged about their labors and commitment.

I love the idea that the new set(s) focus on glorifying Christ and in order to do that teach  us more about the FoM. I think when talking about the FoM Babel is relevant and the account of Genesis 6, the Sons of God and the Nephilim. Maybe there will be a way to implement some of that without causing havoc in the community in the future? I hope so! Even though there were some difficulties, misunderstandings and harsh words in the discussion about the Nephilim I think it was awesome the issue got some attention and I think it's amazing that people are doing research on this. Even though that probably wasn't intended that's also an achievement of the card designers. I'm thankful for that.
I really appreciate the idea of LR's which is a really smart move! I like the most that it's a way to reprint errata'ed cards and will help newcomers get some value cards for trading! I would especially like to see Doms and LSs as LR‘s
I think it's awesome that a diverse variety of brigades, concepts and themes get an upgrade (like Mill, Ruth, giants, zoo – which I want to build decks with). Pushing cards from old releases is a pretty interesting move as well.
David Hasselhoff-Adam is just funny :'D. In general there are a lot of beautiful card arts!
We have interesting new doms and ways of restricting their use a lot of very versatile new cards and strong LSs – what more could you want?
Increased Reserve access, the ability to target it negatively and all of the "regardless of protection" stuff will probably have a huge impact. I am somewhat fearful of that though.
After thinking about it more I think splitting the DA cards icon boxes I think it is a wise and a very good decision even though I object the replacement of the curse icon.
From a design standpoint I enjoy cards that reflect what happend in the bible the most! That’s why I like Raining Fire, Harbringers, Unified Language, Tree of Knowledge and Hailstones. I like how Pillar of Salt has 3/-1 since 3 „good“ characters are left but one is lost (-1). Dunno if that was intentional?
The cards I am most looking forward to add them to my deck(s) are  Flaming Sword, Hailstones and The Leviathan. It’s just sad that no Angel will benefit from the whole Hailstones effect since the only Joshua Angels is Captain which negates this card. Another thing that was disappointing to me is the SA of The Lying Spirit. Maybe I just don’t get how strong it is yet but I feel like it is under-powered and a poor use of a bible story that’s just ultra interesting to me!
I think Eye for an Eye, Pursued and Destroyed and Treachery will be pretty strong too.
Hopefully that helped, was constructive and encouraging?
Blessings :)

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Re: The Fall of Man - Cards and Info
« Reply #188 on: April 21, 2018, 08:03:31 PM »
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Thank you for your encouraging words!

From a design standpoint I enjoy cards that reflect what happend in the bible the most! That’s why I like Raining Fire, Harbringers, Unified Language, Tree of Knowledge and Hailstones. I like how Pillar of Salt has 3/-1 since 3 „good“ characters are left but one is lost (-1). Dunno if that was intentional?

We like to add thematic elements all over the cards. Sometimes it's in the numbers like what you discovered on Pillar of Salt. Usually the special abilities carry a strong thematic element. Many, but not all of the new alternate style borders contain thematic elements. Thanks for noticing! I hope you enjoy finding many more like this one!
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« Reply #189 on: April 22, 2018, 12:00:27 AM »
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Speaking of themes, I’m wondering if any of the Legacy Rares is Joseph in Prison? Seems like it could make the cut...

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Re: The Fall of Man - Cards and Info
« Reply #190 on: April 23, 2018, 11:01:56 AM »
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The Fall of Man set is 147 cards plus 18 Legacy Rare cards
3 Ultra Rare
36 Rare
108 commons
18 Legacy Rare


Each card pack will contain
4 commons
1 rare or legacy rare or ultra rare

The approximate card mix for remaining 10 cards will be
1 Thesaurus
2 Disciples
3 or 4 Patriarchs
3 or 4 Kings

Each Display box will contain one ultra rare in one of the 24 card packs. New packaging is in production. I don't know that it will be here for the initial release which means we will sticker old TeP boxes until new packaging arrives.

Really great! Thank you!

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One general question: Are all Rares and URs are already known but maybe not yet fully updated in the OP posts? Or are not all rarities known yet?

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Re: The Fall of Man - Cards and Info
« Reply #191 on: April 23, 2018, 11:05:45 AM »
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The list is not completely updated in terms of having all the rare cards marked as some of the cards were previewed before rarities were finalized. I will try to do that sometime today.
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« Reply #192 on: April 23, 2018, 11:46:56 AM »
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There will be an article coming out on LoR as soon as the images are finalized showing both the previously previewed images compared to the finalized images.

EDIT: And in addition to the article, all images will be uploaded to the LoR imgur account shortly after they are finalized.
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« Reply #193 on: April 23, 2018, 11:49:36 AM »
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There will be an article coming out on LoR as soon as the images are finalized showing both the previously previewed images compared to the finalized images.

EDIT: And in addition to the article, all images will be uploaded to the LoR imgur account shortly after they are finalized.

Will this have final wording on all cards from FoM? Thanks

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« Reply #194 on: April 23, 2018, 11:57:46 AM »
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There will be an article coming out on LoR as soon as the images are finalized showing both the previously previewed images compared to the finalized images.

EDIT: And in addition to the article, all images will be uploaded to the LoR imgur account shortly after they are finalized.

Will this have final wording on all cards from FoM? Thanks

We may be able to send cards to the printer these week.  That means we are at least five weeks out from being able to fill orders.

I'm just waiting for whenever this happens and then I'll upload the images to imgur and the LoR article will be made showing previewed and final images side-by-side. (so yes when that happens all of the wording should be final as far as I'm aware)
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Re: The Fall of Man - Cards and Info
« Reply #195 on: April 23, 2018, 12:03:06 PM »
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More patriarchs and king extras.... :o. Not that we dont have enough of those.  ;D

Patriarchs and Kings are great for Booster Draft though.  FoM is going to be fantastic for booster draft, with 5 new cards, plus a TxP and 2 Disciples.  Get hyped   ;)
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Re: The Fall of Man - Cards and Info
« Reply #196 on: April 23, 2018, 02:04:28 PM »
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Rarities have been updated on the lists.  8)
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« Reply #197 on: April 23, 2018, 02:36:10 PM »
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The list is not completely updated in terms of having all the rare cards marked as some of the cards were previewed before rarities were finalized. I will try to do that sometime today.
This was meant by my question.


Rarities have been updated on the lists.  8)
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Re: The Fall of Man - Cards and Info
« Reply #198 on: April 23, 2018, 03:09:43 PM »
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7 Legacy Rares have yet to be revealed...#s 4, 6, 8, 15, 16, 17, 18.  8)

I've seen guesses for:

Asherah Pole
Household Idols
Burial
Exchanger Lost Soul
Son of God
Lurking
Joseph in Prison

I'm not at liberty to share specifics yet, but I will confirm one or more of these is indeed correct.  ;D
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« Reply #199 on: April 23, 2018, 03:11:39 PM »
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7 Legacy Rares have yet to be revealed...#s 4, 6, 8, 15, 16, 17, 18.  8)

I've seen guesses for:

Asherah Pole
Household Idols
Burial
Exchanger Lost Soul
Son of God
Lurking
Joseph in Prison

I'm not at liberty to share specifics yet, but I will confirm one or more of these is indeed correct.  ;D

I know it isn't going to happen but I just realized the card I never knew I needed is a LR of the Greek SoG.

 


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