PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)

[jesse]

Purple,red,green. What other colors has David been represented on?

David, the Psalmist from Cloud of Witnesses is white/green.

[uthminister [BR]]

Purple,red,green. What other colors has David been represented on?

And when can we pre-order this upcoming set?

Pre-Orders are forthcoming on TLG starting on October 1st.

[Gabe]

In case you haven't seen it, Travis has lots of spoilers on the Daniel thread in the deck building section!

[Kor]

I like the newly revealed cards, only one I'm concerned about is:

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When combined with Fortelling Angel, having a broad CBN protection + CBN protect souls + CBN band (to go with Fortelling Angel's card draw engine) this card might be going in a direction I thought the game was moving away from.  It is at least on the level of Gideon/AutO, with the potential to be as strong as un-errata'd Children of Light. 

[Kevinthedude]

I like the newly revealed cards, only one I'm concerned about is:

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When combined with Fortelling Angel, having a broad CBN protection + CBN protect souls + CBN band (to go with Fortelling Angel's card draw engine) this card might be going in a direction I thought the game was moving away from.  It is at least on the level of Gideon/AutO, with the potential to be as strong as un-errata'd Children of Light.

I disagree that it's even as strong as AUtO/Gideon and it's nowhere close to CoL. There are CBN bands in the game already that don't require this much set up and none of them were even in the meta this year. CBN protection from lone ECs is decent but it's miles away from protection from everything like Gideon and even still there's plenty of ways in the game now to block either one.

[redemption collector 777]

any ideas what the other cards in the PoC booster packs will be??


Do we get 5 PoC cards with the other 11 being either tin cards , disciples , texp , priests etc??

[Reth]

SPOILER LIST (all cards subject to change)

Since the original post hasn't been updated in 2 weeks, I made a list of the cards spoiled in that time.  Not sure if I missed any.

Trying to get all already spoiled cards together - hopefully no duplicates and no misses. Did not sort them though.
Maybe a mod can move them to the beginning of this thread.



Moses, Friend of God
The Emmaus Road
400 Years of Silence
Manna
Jonah's Anger
Lost Soul (Orphans)
Fake Spoilers
Persian Archers
Persian Conquerors
Numerous as the Stars
Potiphar’s Wife
False Dreams
Lion’s Den
Negev Lions
Kinsman Redeemer
Alexander the Great
Covenant of Eden
The Outcasts
Flying Scroll
Aaron Gods Mediator
Trumpet in Zion
The Shunammite Woman
Withered Plant/Worm
Mounted Forces
Babylonian Merchants
Ninevites
Assyrian Laborers
Balaams Prophecy
Lost Soul: Covenant Breakers
Covenant with Moses
Egypt
Reclaimed by Egypt
Carcasses
Accursed of God
Righteous Judge
Out of Bethlehem
Servants by the River

[thecoolguy]

it is righteous right?

[Kor]

I like the newly revealed cards, only one I'm concerned about is:

Spoiler (hover to show)

When combined with Fortelling Angel, having a broad CBN protection + CBN protect souls + CBN band (to go with Fortelling Angel's card draw engine) this card might be going in a direction I thought the game was moving away from.  It is at least on the level of Gideon/AutO, with the potential to be as strong as un-errata'd Children of Light.

I disagree that it's even as strong as AUtO/Gideon and it's nowhere close to CoL. There are CBN bands in the game already that don't require this much set up and none of them were even in the meta this year. CBN protection from lone ECs is decent but it's miles away from protection from everything like Gideon and even still there's plenty of ways in the game now to block either one.

It's definitely slightly different than AUtO/Gideon, but it makes up for the ways it is weaker in other areas.  I agree that there are more ways to block characters that are protected now, although the fact that Servants also protects Lost Souls and can band to gain high numbers gets around several of them.

but I'd also propose that SbtR say; "While a Daniel angel is in battle, protect Lost Souls and Daniel humans..." rather than what it is now. That way you can deal with the angel first if need be.

This is still a strong ability, but it feels a lot more fair.  I like it.

[ChristianSoldier]

I'd also propose that SbtR say; "While a Daniel angel is in battle, protect Lost Souls and Daniel humans..." rather than what it is now. That way you can deal with the angel first if need be.

I'm pretty sure even this weaker ability would make it into my Daniel deck. It still serves a pretty good function. The ability to create huge CBN Banding chains of protected characters is pretty good for a Daniel deck, that's almost the core of my current Daniel deck when that protection is much more limited (I have negates and a few battle winners).

[Reth]

it is righteous right?

Should be I assume. Just copied the names from the URLs and the URL contains that 'h' - typo I assume.

[redemption collector 777]

Servants by the River SA: Protect Lost Souls and Daniel Heroes from lone Evil Characters. May band to a Daniel angel.

Agree with Kor about the ability possibly being the level of Auto/Gideon.

Was thinking for type 2 if a player can band 2 or more Daniel angels into battle with foretelling angel making them CBN. (with their current band ability to other Daniel angels) then with CBN protection with 2 or more Daniel angels in battle might be too strong.



Here would be my suggestion:

While a Daniel angel is in battle , protect Lost Souls and Daniel human heroes from lone evil characters. May band to a Daniel human Hero.

[Reth]

List updated from Daniel deck. Hopefully no dups nor misses.

Moses, Friend of God
The Emmaus Road
400 Years of Silence
Manna
Jonah's Anger
Lost Soul (Orphans)
Fake Spoilers
Persian Archers
Persian Conquerors
Numerous as the Stars
Potiphar’s Wife
False Dreams
Lion’s Den
Negev Lions
Kinsman Redeemer
Alexander the Great
Covenant of Eden
The Outcasts
Flying Scroll
Aaron Gods Mediator
Trumpet in Zion
The Shunammite Woman
Withered Plant/Worm
Mounted Forces
Babylonian Merchants
Ninevites
Assyrian Laborers
Balaams Prophecy
Lost Soul: Covenant Breakers
Covenant with Moses
Egypt
Reclaimed by Egypt
Carcasses
Accursed of God
Righteous Judge
Out of Bethlehem
Servants by the River
Destruction of Nehushtan
Shadrach
Daniels Guardian
Stone Cut Without Hands
Conjurers
The Winged Lion
Babylonian Siege Army
Melchizedek
The Coming Prince

[Gabe]

A few notes for the lovely list you put together:

400 Years had the title changed to Lacking Prophecy (as Jesse pointed out the original title is not an accurate assessment). It was also moved to phase 2.
Lost Soul "Orphans" is a phase 2 card
Fake Spoiler is not a real card. It is literally a fake. 
Numerous as the Stars is a phase 2 card

Any other cards that are in phase 2 should have been noted when we previewed them.

King of Tyrus might be missing from that list.

[Reth]

Phase 1:

Moses, Friend of God
The Emmaus Road
Manna
Jonah's Anger
Fake Spoilers
Persian Archers
Persian Conquerors
Potiphar’s Wife
False Dreams
Lion’s Den
Negev Lions
Kinsman Redeemer
The Outcasts
Flying Scroll
Aaron Gods Mediator
Trumpet in Zion
The Shunammite Woman
Withered Plant/Worm
Mounted Forces
Babylonian Merchants
Ninevites
Assyrian Laborers
Balaams Prophecy
Lost Soul: Covenant Breakers
Covenant with Moses
Egypt
Reclaimed by Egypt
Carcasses
Accursed of God
Righteous Judge
Out of Bethlehem
Servants by the River
Destruction of Nehushtan
Shadrach
Daniels Guardian
Stone Cut Without Hands
Conjurers
The Winged Lion
Babylonian Siege Army
Melchizedek
The Coming Prince
King of Tyrus


Phase 2:

Lacking Prophecy
Lost Soul (Orphans)
Numerous as the Stars
Alexander the Great
Covenant of Eden

[Reth]

A few notes for the lovely list you put together:

Thanks Gabe!

400 Years had the title changed to Lacking Prophecy (as Jesse pointed out the original title is not an accurate assessment). It was also moved to phase 2.
Lost Soul "Orphans" is a phase 2 card
Fake Spoiler is not a real card. It is literally a fake. 
Numerous as the Stars is a phase 2 card

Changed. But did not find appropriate information regarding the phases of these cards yet. Where has it been mentioned?

Any other cards that are in phase 2 should have been noted when we previewed them.

Thanx. Moved Alex and Covenant of Eden to Phase 2.

King of Tyrus might be missing from that list.

Thanx again - added.

[Crashfach2002]

The OP has all of the cards that have been spoiled on it.  I was busy this weekend so did them as I could, thus didn't announce when it was completely updated.  Thank you for keeping up with it Reth, and I'll make the notes about the phases momentarily.

[Gabe]

Boy oh boy, I feel like some midweek spoilers are in order!

What does everyone think about having a “ladies day”? Wednesday Women?

[Watchman]

Boy oh boy, I feel like some midweek spoilers are in order!

What does everyone think about having a “ladies day”? Wednesday Women?

With a lot of focus on Exodus characters, I sense a new Miriam is coming. And with judges, maybe we’ll even see a new Deborah. *hoping*

[Gabe]

2 of 5 spoiled with more to come... No Miriam or Deborah yet...

[Ironisaac]

yet

Miriam and Deborah confirmed

[redemption collector 777]

Might be a little late for feedback but here is my intake of these two cards:



Babylonian Siege Army SA: Negate a Good or Neutral card. If it is an artifact , take it. If it is human  , capture it. If it is an Enhancement  discard it. If it is a site or fortress , reserve it.

Thinking a possible auto capture win off of a character ability might be considered too strong. 



For Bablyonian Siege Army I would suggest the following:

If you control another Babylonian , Negate a good or neutral card in opponent's territory.

 
I know there is cards like Doeg and Lions but at least Lions has an optional reveal for Heroes and Doeg has a condition that requires evil King Saul to be in play.


Persian Conquerors SA: If you control another Persian , discard a Babylonian , an artifact , a Fortress or a Site. Opponent may withdraw all Heroes instead. Cannot be interrupted.

The ability on Persian Conquerors seems to be as strong as the Assyrian Siege Army card (but at least have a withdraw option). Not sure if we are okay with this ,or do we want to move away from such CBN abilities like Assyrian siege army??

Maybe it could be:

If you control another Persian , discard a Babylonian , an artifact , a Fortress or a Site. Opponent may withdraw all Heroes instead. Cannot be prevented.

[Gabe]

I might at least slap Unity Babylonian Evil Characters for Babylonian Siege Army.

We discussed that on an elder call last night and feel like that takes it too far. We're considering "Unity: Evil Characters (Crimson)" as an option though.

You'll thank us for helping you keep your deck from splashing too many brigades if your opponent is playing with this:

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[Watchman]

I might at least slap Unity Babylonian Evil Characters for Babylonian Siege Army.

I agree with this, or at least have some other condition in the SA like I mentioned in a previous post. I have already thought of a couple nasty CBN combinations with the capture portion. If the unity is used for BSA then at least one of these combos won’t be possible. To leave it the way it is is simply too easily abusable.

[sepjazzwarrior]

maybe unity: warrior class EC?

Hannah is a boss, you get inish, hand reveal, drawing, and LS protection.  maybe too good, maybe limit 3 for drawing? or maybe have Samuel be in play for part of her ability to work?