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This one is in desperate need of an update. Any chance she’s in LoC with the evil Judean royalty theme?

I almost spoiled her earlier today but realized that there was a slight change needed for clarity before she's revealed.

Wow! Awesome new cards! Seems really they can turn the general meta a little (well at least in terms of how speediness resp. access can be achieved  ).

But I do not get the Star-Ability of Peleg, the Divider. How is it supposed to be to work - and even more: How and when is it supposed to be used? (Since in original usage - i.e. when drawn per game rule - it would just restricted the owning player to do other Star-abilities while it only lasts until draw phase is finished ...)

If it is in your opening hand you could use it to negate your opponent's opening hand star abilities.

Quote from: Gabe on December 04, 2019, 03:59:44 PM

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When it says "different" what does that specifically mean? I'm wondering if you could play this on a generic character, bounce it, then put it right back down, since it's generic.

I would expect "different" to check the card title and disallow any that matched the one that was bounced. Marcus tends to have a better grasp of these interactions though so I'm interested to hear his take.

Short version: It's not quite as simple as same name in theory, although I think it works out that way in all but 1 instance in practice. You definitely can't add another copy of the same card.

Long version:

When comparing attributes of cards, two cards are different if there is at least a partial difference, based on the active identity of cards on the playing surface and the face value of cards at face value. If either or both cards has more than one of the compared attribute (such as a multi-brigade card), only one of that attribute has to be different between the two cards for them to be considered different.

Attributes describe what a card is, not what it does. It includes identifiers, strength, toughness, brigade, card type and reference. It does not include the special ability printed on the card.

Hadad Flees is a bit outside the REG definition, but I'd say we're comparing all of the attributes of the bounced EC and the new EC.
- The bounced EC can't be different from himself, by definition.
- Any card that matched all of the attributes of the bounced EC wouldn't be different, so another copy of the same card isn't different.
- Art is not mentioned as an attribute, so even things like Pharisees and Sadducees wouldn't necessarily be different cards.

Pending a change on art being an attribute, I think that means the only instance where you can add the "same" character to battle is with the Pharisees - 2 versions have a Matthew reference and 1 has a John reference, so the one with a John reference would qualify as "different" than either of the Matthew ones.

Quality explanation by Mr. Aggie up above!

Speaking of postexilic characters, how about the spoiling of the prince of them all, Nehemiah; and perhaps his enemies, Sanballat, Tobiah, the Arabs, the Ammonites, and the Ashdodites??

That’s all quality material we’ve saved for the future. We had a Nehemiah but like most non-LoC Heroes he was cut.

I'm not sure where to put this question so since its related to LoC I'm putting it here.

I'm really excited that LoC will be offered with only LoC cards and that it is designed to make for a really good booster draft experience.  My questions are as follows:

1. How will this affect the cost of booster?
2. Is this going to be only multiplayer booster?

Check out the beautifully organized first posts!!! All sorted by number and rarity noted too. 

Basically, if it’s a CBN battle winner and you control the condition we consider it OP on the new card face. If it has limitations, such as what it can defeat (ex:non-humans) or via a condition the opponent controls (like the LR above) then it’s probably OK.

I know it isn’t as broad or powerful, but doesn’t the new Josiah’s Covenant violate this?

Quote from: Kor on December 05, 2019, 12:39:50 PM

Quote from: Gabe on December 04, 2019, 06:06:36 PM

Basically, if it’s a CBN battle winner and you control the condition we consider it OP on the new card face. If it has limitations, such as what it can defeat (ex:non-humans) or via a condition the opponent controls (like the LR above) then it’s probably OK.

I know it isn’t as broad or powerful, but doesn’t the new Josiah’s Covenant violate this?

It sure does. My statement was a generalization and doesn't cover all scenarios. I believe that card has gone unchanged for most of testing so I'm pretty confident our team is OK with a highly limited CBN battle winner that doesn't interrupt/negate first and only works on a character that doesn't get initiative super easy.

Yeah at least after throne rotates I’m sure it will be tougher to use.

Yeah at this point it is still definitely weaker than Amaziah/valley of salt.

Wonder if a black brigade Anak will be in this set?  The 3 sons were printed in the FOM set.

If not that is okay too.

That’s a cool card idea that I’m sure we’ll see some day! I don’t recall it being associated with any LoC characters so it’s unlikely this year since almost every card is LoC related.

It looks like we're back to the CoW/RoJ style of grouping the set by type - dominants at the beginning, then artifacts, sites/forts, dual-alignment, etc. I personally liked the last couple sets being ordered by reference, but I know some people weren't as big of fans. Ah well.

It looks like we're back to the CoW/RoJ style of grouping the set by type - dominants at the beginning, then artifacts, sites/forts, dual-alignment, etc. I personally liked the last couple sets being ordered by reference, but I know some people weren't as big of fans. Ah well.

That ordering is tedious for me to work with and takes a lot of extra time. Since I touch each file dozens of times and access them several times a day I need them in a more manageable order.