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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #75 on: February 16, 2019, 03:32:22 PM »
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The art you all are getting on these legacy rares for the ones with new images are pretty sweeeeeeeeeeeeet!  Love the great image one!
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« Reply #76 on: February 16, 2019, 04:12:32 PM »
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I don't know if it was copied or not, but there's a typo/grammatical mistake in Great Image's reference. "It's" is "it is", so currently the last part of the verse says "and it is appearance was awesome"
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« Reply #77 on: February 16, 2019, 04:19:03 PM »
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I don't know if it was copied or not, but there's a typo/grammatical mistake in Great Image's reference. "It's" is "it is", so currently the last part of the verse says "and it is appearance was awesome"

That’s a great catch.

Appearance is also misspelled in the verse on the card.

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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #78 on: February 16, 2019, 04:44:46 PM »
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I don't know if it was copied or not, but there's a typo/grammatical mistake in Great Image's reference. "It's" is "it is", so currently the last part of the verse says "and it is appearance was awesome"

To further correct this, I'm pretty sure "it's" means it is while "its" is the possessive.
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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #79 on: February 16, 2019, 08:57:43 PM »
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These dudes have long been one of my favorite ECs... really looking forward to having a new look for them.  8)
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« Reply #80 on: February 16, 2019, 10:16:34 PM »
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^ That's actually a card whose original artwork I really like- one of the few from the oldest sets at all. Is it not conducive to the newer format?

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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #81 on: February 17, 2019, 12:37:07 AM »
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Interesting idea--I found an artist by that name through a Google search, but can't really confirm if it's the same guy. He seems to be more known for space related illustrations. If anyone can figure out if that's him we could give it a shot.
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« Reply #82 on: February 17, 2019, 05:26:35 AM »
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Interesting idea--I found an artist by that name through a Google search, but can't really confirm if it's the same guy. He seems to be more known for space related illustrations. If anyone can figure out if that's him we could give it a shot.
Seems I got Mark Poole and Michael Carroll mixed up in my memory. Poole is a prolific MTG and fantasy artist. He did the art for OG Samson, Red Dragon and a number of other cards from the Blue packs and Prophets. I know Poole isn't super hard to get in contact with... but that's beside the point I guess.

I'll do some more googling tomorrow but it seems like our Mr.Carroll and space Mr.Carroll have a similar art style at least.
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« Reply #83 on: February 17, 2019, 05:36:18 AM »
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It's possible Doug Gray might have his info too... or at the very least remember more about him.

Looks like he contributed art at least up through Pats. Apparently, Michael Carroll did the art for Solomons Temple.
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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #84 on: February 17, 2019, 06:54:40 AM »
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Interesting idea--I found an artist by that name through a Google search, but can't really confirm if it's the same guy. He seems to be more known for space related illustrations. If anyone can figure out if that's him we could give it a shot.

I sent this Michael Carroll a message asking if he was the same one or not. Of note, this Carroll who does space art has also illustrated Creation-related space books for kids, so it’s most likely the same Carroll. I’ll let everyone know if I hear back from him.
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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #85 on: February 17, 2019, 09:18:07 AM »
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Good detective work to try to track down the original Great Image artwork, guys! Thanks for reaching out to him, Derek!

Here's the last LR preview I get to share with you. I've enjoyed playing this card in a number of decks over the years. I feel like it has the most value in MP.

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« Reply #86 on: February 17, 2019, 09:32:14 AM »
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Good detective work to try to track down the original Great Image artwork, guys! Thanks for reaching out to him, Derek!

Glad to do my part. Doing detective work is my day job, afterall. ;)
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« Reply #87 on: February 17, 2019, 09:57:21 AM »
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These dudes have long been one of my favorite ECs... really looking forward to having a new look for them.  8)
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I like the new Astrologers. My only hiccup is the ability wording "and opponent must discard their card in territory" feels a little wonky. Maybe something like "and opponent must discard a card in their territory" or "and opponent must discard a card from their territory". It is just a feeling and I know it will go away. Otherwise, beautiful full art Legacy Rare.

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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #88 on: February 17, 2019, 11:12:43 AM »
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These dudes have long been one of my favorite ECs... really looking forward to having a new look for them.  8)
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I like the new Astrologers. My only hiccup is the ability wording "and opponent must discard their card in territory" feels a little wonky. Maybe something like "and opponent must discard a card in their territory" or "and opponent must discard a card from their territory". It is just a feeling and I know it will go away. Otherwise, beautiful full art Legacy Rare.

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Good point, Mike. As it reads I could see it meaning that the opponent has to discard their card from your territory which is either confusing language or very different than the original Astrologers. I'll update the wording provided the other guys on the team agree.
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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #89 on: February 17, 2019, 12:45:06 PM »
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These dudes have long been one of my favorite ECs... really looking forward to having a new look for them.  8)
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I like the new Astrologers. My only hiccup is the ability wording "and opponent must discard their card in territory" feels a little wonky. Maybe something like "and opponent must discard a card in their territory" or "and opponent must discard a card from their territory". It is just a feeling and I know it will go away. Otherwise, beautiful full art Legacy Rare.

Godspeed,
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Good point, Mike. As it reads I could see it meaning that the opponent has to discard their card from your territory which is either confusing language or very different than the original Astrologers. I'll update the wording provided the other guys on the team agree.

Doing that will change the ability from the original, ever so slightly. As it is now, the opponent must own the card they discard (their card). Were it to be changed (a card in their territory), it could mean they discard something like Destructive Sin or another card they don't necessarily own, but have on their playing side.

Might not make much of a difference, but it would be different from the original.
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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #90 on: February 17, 2019, 02:02:20 PM »
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Update to the Great Image artwork:

I received a reply and he is the same Michael Carroll who did the GI artwork. Unfortunately, he no longer has the original image. He stated, however, that perhaps he could do an updated one and requested Rob Anderson’s contact info, which I provided him with.
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« Reply #91 on: February 17, 2019, 03:21:52 PM »
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Ahhhh, one of my all-time favorite cards is getting a sweet new look...now I just gotta get Doug Gray to sign one of these for me since I have a signed version of the original.  8)

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« Reply #92 on: February 17, 2019, 03:35:45 PM »
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Update to the Great Image artwork:

I received a reply and he is the same Michael Carroll who did the GI artwork. Unfortunately, he no longer has the original image. He stated, however, that perhaps he could do an updated one and requested Rob Anderson’s contact info, which I provided him with.
Wow, I can't believe contacting him worked hahaha. I love the internet. I thought we were going to have to track down Rob or Doug's old Rolodex in a box, in some storage unit or attic, to find this guy.

I'm sure if he makes an updated one he will ask for a commission. If he does I think this would be an appropriate time to blow off the entire art budget on one card.

If needed maybe we could also do crowdfunding. Donate at least $20 and you get a free copy. Donate $50 you got a box of Prophets and a free copy. Donate $80 you get a box of Prophets, a personal thank you letter from Rob and the Elders and a free copy... ect. Just ideas.

Considering how iconic the art is for the history of Redemption and the fact we were able to find this guy, I think we as a community can go out of our way to make this happen. :)
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« Reply #93 on: February 17, 2019, 05:11:12 PM »
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So we're down to one last Legacy Rare to be revealed!

Let's play a little guessing game and see if we can figure out what it is!
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« Reply #94 on: February 17, 2019, 05:14:29 PM »
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So we're down to one last Legacy Rare to be revealed!

Let's play a little guessing game and see if we can figure out what it is!

I'm going to guess A Child is Born or Mary's Prophetic Act. Either way, both are old Promos that fit very well in the theme of Prophesies of Christ.

I would also be amused if it was Son of God... not because it needs to be a legacy rare, but because it would be cool to be one.
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« Reply #95 on: February 17, 2019, 05:15:19 PM »
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We should probably offer clues so I'll begin with one...

The last will be the first... ::)

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« Reply #96 on: February 17, 2019, 05:22:31 PM »
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We should probably offer clues so I'll begin with one...

The last will be the first... ::)

I know what it is and it too me a while to figure out how that clue applied. No Secrets... I can be pretty dense.
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« Reply #97 on: February 17, 2019, 06:04:52 PM »
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So, we know that the reference is somewhere past Zechariah 3:1 (as there's no gap for it in the reveals for it and Joshua's reference has to come before it. So either it's Malachi or N.T. (I'm going to assume the latter simply because of the volume of content). With those clues, I'm going to guess Saphiria?

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« Reply #98 on: February 17, 2019, 06:14:23 PM »
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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #99 on: February 17, 2019, 06:15:51 PM »
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The last will be the first makes me think of a servant, so maybe Watchful Servant?

Edit: oh but I see RDT just said it's not a character...
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