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Converted Egyptian Magicians/Astrologers
« on: June 27, 2013, 12:40:44 PM »
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I attack with a converted Egyptian Magicians (to Green).  The bottom card of my deck is Forest Fire (tin).  Can I add it to battle?

I attack with a converted Astrologers.  The bottom card of my deck is evil.  Does my opponent have to discard a card from territory?  And can it be a hero?  Wasn't sure if the last part would convert, since it can technically target a hero.
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Re: Converted Egyptian Magicians/Astrologers
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2013, 04:53:19 PM »
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Quote from: jmhartz on June 27, 2013, 12:40:44 PM
I attack with a converted Egyptian Magicians (to Green).  The bottom card of my deck is Forest Fire (tin).  Can I add it to battle?

I attack with a converted Astrologers.  The bottom card of my deck is evil.  Does my opponent have to discard a card from territory?  And can it be a hero?  Wasn't sure if the last part would convert, since it can technically target a hero.

Yes to both. FF is evil, and it is a brigade that EM can play. Since Astrologers doesn't directly target a Hero, its more like Huge Egyptian (which may or may not target a Hero).
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Re: Converted Egyptian Magicians/Astrologers
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2013, 11:46:33 AM »
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Follow-up question to the EM scenario.  If I build a T2 troll deck that sets Ezekiel aside with Gathering of Angels, and I attack with him, underdeck Forest Fire, then band to converted EM, can EM still add Forest Fire to battle?  "Add to battle" is not the same as a "Play" ability if it can add card types other than enhancements, right?
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Re: Converted Egyptian Magicians/Astrologers
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2013, 11:50:11 AM »
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Quote from: jmhartz on July 01, 2013, 11:46:33 AM
Follow-up question to the EM scenario.  If I build a T2 troll deck that sets Ezekiel aside with Gathering of Angels, and I attack with him, underdeck Forest Fire, then band to converted EM, can EM still add Forest Fire to battle?  "Add to battle" is not the same as a "Play" ability if it can add card types other than enhancements, right?

I guess I don't follow why that would be any different than the previous scenario. Could you explain your thinking a bit more?
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Re: Converted Egyptian Magicians/Astrologers
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2013, 11:53:11 AM »
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I think he means, does "add to battle" count as a "play ability" for Ezekiel's negate?
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Re: Converted Egyptian Magicians/Astrologers
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2013, 11:56:42 AM »
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Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on July 01, 2013, 11:53:11 AM
I think he means, does "add to battle" count as a "play ability" for Ezekiel's negate?

Ah, right. I don't believe so, but I know we've had some unresolved discussions in the past about add to battle vs. play/band/etc. I'd have to await further comment from other Elders to be sure.

Fortunately, I seriously doubt this specific situation will ever matter, but I could see where other situations may cause similar issues.
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Re: Converted Egyptian Magicians/Astrologers
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2013, 11:58:38 AM »
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Quote from: Professoralstad on July 01, 2013, 11:56:42 AM
Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on July 01, 2013, 11:53:11 AM
I think he means, does "add to battle" count as a "play ability" for Ezekiel's negate?

Ah, right. I don't believe so, but I know we've had some unresolved discussions in the past about add to battle vs. play/band/etc. I'd have to await further comment from other Elders to be sure.

Fortunately, I seriously doubt this specific situation will ever matter, but I could see where other situations may cause similar issues.

A more probable situation: Ezekiel vs Evil Spawn (Pi)

Speaking of "Add to Battle," why was that taken out of the REG?
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Re: Converted Egyptian Magicians/Astrologers
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2013, 12:02:08 PM »
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Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on July 01, 2013, 11:58:38 AM
Speaking of "Add to Battle," why was that taken out of the REG?

I don't recall for sure if it ever was in the REG as its own ability, but I seem to remember that it wasn't. I know it has been a topic of discussion for awhile, the differences between AtB and Play/Band, but I will have to try to find out if there was ever any conclusions.
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