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Gosh, I'm so excited for booster at nationals! Who is even gonna want to play t1 multi now? 

Honestly t1-multi is a category I've never won. I might just to see if I can put that notch in my belt.  Plus winner promo's are always amazing so if I'm competing against a pool 8 or 88 I might take the 8.

I would have to double check when I'm home, but I'm pretty sure Sealed has been a fairly strong category at Nationals the last few years. It doesn't get played as much at smaller tournaments probably due to cost.

Quote from: The Guardian on June 06, 2018, 01:38:52 AM

I would have to double check when I'm home, but I'm pretty sure Sealed has been a fairly strong category at Nationals the last few years. It doesn't get played as much at smaller tournaments probably due to cost.

I think the cost is less than booster draft but most of the time the value of cards is much less overall considering you usually get to draft 3-4 box packs. And imo but booster Is way more interesting.

Boop. Nailed it on the head.

Sealed has always gotten some sort of following at Nats because it gets paired with lesser categories. Many players choose sealed instead of Type I Multi, Type II Multi, ect.

tripleplay is correct in that it doesn't get played at smaller tournies because booster has a greater variety of cards verses sealed. Players would rather get new cards or a variety of cards instead of half a starter and three old boosters they already have all the cards to. Cost is the same (or very close to the same) so that is a moot point. When players do super drafts or regular drafts with additional packs it costs way more then sealed does!

I think it might be worth exploring new official variations of "sealed" aka receiving sealed product and making a deck but no drafting, in addition to new variations of "booster draft".

Or... just scrapping traditional sealed deck altogether and making Sealed Categories "two player drafting" and "multi player drafting".

A two person draft does not have much appeal to me...you'll know exactly what cards your opponent is taking.

Sorry. It's hard to be clear with text sometimes. When I was referring to "two player drafting" I meant two player games.

Have one category where players do two player games and another category where players do multiplayer games. Drafting for both game types is done with 3 or more players at a table. The games themselves will have different player counts.

Basically what has been already declared a official game type. I'm suggesting that replaces traditional Sealed Deck or maybe another form of drafting, or a different sealed product is used for "sealed deck" instead of starter decks. I referenced MTG prerelease kits earlier as a example of what I'm thinking of.

8 person draft pods sounds really cool! It might be hard to implement at smaller tournaments but could be fun to try at Nationals.

If Travis & Rob concur, I would love to test this Pod-of-Up-to-8 drafting format. Just found a perfect online Randomizer that would group players into pods of 8, a process that the Berkenpass scorekeeper cannot do.

https://www.randomlists.com/team-generator?items=Brock%0AGale%0AGustavo%0AHank%0AHector%0AHolly%0AJane%0AJesse%0ALydia%0AMarie%0AMike%0APete%0ASaul%0ASkyler%0ATodd%0AWalter%0ARob%0ARoy%0AGabe%0ATravis%0AJustin%0AJosiah%0ABrandon%0ANathan&grp=3

8 player drafting sounds terrible to be honest (mostly for Guardian's reason).

As an aside, if 2 player booster draft (3-4 person draft; 2 player games) is something that's not going away anytime soon, I would strongly put forth the motion for allowing both 2 player booster and traditional booster (MP games) to be hosted at States and higher assuming both are not run simultaneously. I would gladly play both instead of something like any of the current categories offered on the last day.

Maybe we just have different draft strategy philosophies, (and there's nothing wrong with that), but I disagree with your assessment.

In a 4 person draft, I can look at my first pack and after my first pick, I usually try to identify 3-4 cards I would like to take in the second round (this is assuming 15 card box packs). I do the same for each pack in the first round and essentially keep a running list in my head of the cards I'd want in each pack. In an 8 person pod, I'm getting a brand new pack for the first 8 rounds. It would be pointless to try and figure out which 7 cards are most likely to be gone by the time the pack gets back to me. While I understand the point about getting to look at a wider pool of cards, I won't have any feel for what anyone else is drafting and therefore will be unable to make determinations about the value of cards in the later packs.

While I would be willing to try an 8 person draft at a small tournament (or even just for fun), I would oppose the idea of implementing it at the National tournament.

Very glad 2P option has came to drafting as I find it way funner to be honest.  8P pod drafting does not seem like something I personally would be for. I'd much rather it be 4 (or if you have 6 people 3/3, etc.).